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RE: HIVE all time low, just hit 5 cents. I am buying, powering up, but I think the current model is failing.

in Ecency5 days ago

Maybe check which comment I replied to? You only mentioned one proposal there.

Saying people are voting and supporting proposals, or not stopping in doing so are doing it because they are

Are making enough money to pretend it is not a problem and pretend they are morally superior.

is not offensive?

Hive and Steem being worth the same is a red herring, similar like most forks still having value while there's nothing going on there. Outside investors don't care to find out how much more progress we're making here and the potential because our marketcap is so low and we never get any attention outside of this space. The little attention we do get is from X which the recipient of your mentioned proposal has been very active in among many other things they do in terms of listings/partnerships, etc. I'd take retrospective proposals before "trust us we'll do this but need the money up front - don't worry we'll update you constantly, then disappear until a week before it's time to make a new proposal".

Justin Sun is a huge conman who buys his way out of prison because the world is corrupt, even bringing that up here sounds like you're just looking for arguments rather than healthy discussions. Just because the price of Hive is low doesn't mean it is damaged.

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My comment was about proposals in general and I cited her then went back to talk about other proposals, sorry for the bad formatting and misunderstanding.

I am not saying she contributed nothing. I am saying contribution and affordability are not the same thing.

On the “morally superior” line: My point is that people earning from Hive experience this crisis differently from people buying HIVE with outside income while every holder goes underwater.

I agree retrospective proposals are better than “pay us first and trust us later”. But retrospective funding still needs to prove outcome, not effort, did they create measurable demand or reduce future DHF dependence?

I am saying that if Hive has apps, events, builders, community and activity, but still ends up near Steem’s market cap, then the market is telling us our progress is not translating into demand.

It is precisely because we have so many people working so much that it is sad. They (Steem) do nothing, we (Hive) do a lot, we both lose similarly, like this: