POB STREET WITH @ONEALFA 18-09-21 #17

in #proofofbrain3 years ago (edited)

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insight.pob present pobstreet in conjunction with @onealfa.pob, where there will be a daily topic raised in which everybody can engage in it, and the daily topic can be reached from the community members, if you have any topics suggestion for the next day drop it in your first or second comment of the day with an #Topic.

The selected topics will be the next day topic, best topic of the week will be selected by the numbers of engagements it attracts.

REWARD

@onealfa × @insight.pob will be rewarding the community members.

Daily

  • top daily comments (judge by the quality of the post)minimum of 5 member, if there are more people we will increase the number of people.

weekly

  • Topic of the week

reward can be reviewed to add more winners as we are getting bigger.

if you are not in the the categories i personally will be voting accounts according to it engagements daily.

MOTIVES

  • to attract and bring new members to the pob community.

  • support new members and guide them on any issues they are facing

  • to build the pob community and take it to the next level.

comments of the day:

Today's topic

When should we use the
downvote button

Topic from @precious008

  • note winners will also be judge by engagements and quality

Thanks.

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This is a question we should not avoid in this community.
I have never use the downvote button for anyone before in this community,maybe because I haven't dislike any content but I don't use the downvote button.
I do see some content that are downvoted by @onealfa though I do try to figure out why he downvoted some content and start reviewing the contents he downvoted so that I won't make the mistake the person who was downvoted made.

The person who use the downvote button the most in this community is the spaminator.
And one of the reason why this sperminator can follow you is when you are practicing pragliarism that is copying other people post or picture and reposting it in this community

The sperminator is a bit and it follows anyone with an offense in this community and downvoting do reduce reputation.

The downvote button is not for any how use. Don't ever used deep downvote button anyhow.
@onealfa downvoted some content recently and that is is choice he can do anything he wish.
But I know he has a good reason and intention for downvoting the content

If you have hard time to understand what might be the reason of my DV on some particular post - give me a link to it. I may explain what has raised them
But I don't feel having obligations to explain my actions on every single DV. I do dozens of DV's per week, depends on how many reports of abuse I get from other Hive users, who care a lot of this, but have not enough power to DV directly. Or, sometimes, just want to remain anonymous due to their limited resources (retaliations is so common).

.. so that I won't make the mistake the person who was downvoted made

It's all simple an easy. Follow these 10 basic dont's:

  • Don't plagiarize
  • Don't SPAM (includes TAG spamming)
  • Don't misuse tags
  • Don't recycle your past Hive posts
  • Don't use offensive/hate/nude-style content/speech
  • Don't ignore community rules (if there are some)
  • Don't be too greedy or selfish, Don't make excessive selfvotes
  • Don't repost same/similar content from your alternative accounts
  • Don't circle-jerk
  • Don't DV others just because you disagree, or have different point of view, different priorities.

If you follow ALL these 10 rules, you are 100% safe from my DV's
Otherwise, you may sometimes walk at a thin line from unpleasant results.

Well stated boss, I know you are going to reply.... Waiting for @proofofbrainio is like waiting for the world to end... ☹️


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"When should we use the
downvote button?"

Fantastic question. As we all know that the opposite of upvoting is downvoting. There are several reasons why the downvoting power can be use.

  1. Unqualified Post : unqualify post simply means post that are not meant to be in this community e.g posting of Porn or erotic related post. This kind of post can be downvoted.

  2. Use of wrong ashtag : some posts are not meant for some certain tribes and when such post are seen it can be downvoted. Such as posting sport in weed community when such post does not relate weed.

  3. Hate speach the truth is that we are suppose to respect each other opinion. post that is done for the purpose of saying something negative about the community as a whole can be downvoted. For example someone who does not like weed, posting something negative about weed just because the person believe is against weed.

  4. Undeserved upvote received: some weeks back i noticed someone post and instantly due to automatic upvote the post got some pob and the person delete such post after earning some pob. @nikkybabe noticed this and call the attention of @onealfa.pob and @leprechaun and the content was downvoted. The truth is that when we see some post earning undeserved reward it should be downvoted.

  5. Notice of fraudulence act : Of recent @onealfa.pob downvote some people's post just because he noticed the goal of such people is to get pob and sell. Which has been the reason for downward movement of pob price.


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#5 doesn't make a lot of sense. Selling POB isn't a fraudulent act. Even onealfa sells POB at least occasionally. Selling POB isn't the only reason why the price of the token goes down. It isn't cause for a DV.


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Oh @precious008,

Everyone avoids this topic... but let's talk about it for a second.

My answer is two more questions, "When have you given a downvote?"

And, "What do you do when you receive a downvote from another user (even if it is small)?"

As for me I have given a handful of downvotes and two of those were because I touched the wrong button on accident. I corrected those quickly. The other was for comments with damaging links.

I know there are plenty of reasons to give downvotes. We have complete freedom to use the downvote once a day without running our HP down. And with freedom comes responsibility.


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Today is another wonderful day and I'm quite busy since yesterday does what I am not engaging in this #pobstreet since yesterday but am back now.
This topic he's an issue of concern when I go through yesterday's comment seeing this question from @precious008 to @onealfa.pob I have been restless because I really don't know why he downvoted some content and I don't have the confidence to be engaging in this community after seeing that yesterday.
We have to know the reason so that we can avoid it when we are commenting all creating a content we want you post.

You should copy a link to that post here so we can all see.

So excited seeing comment being part of the yesterday best comment once again.
This is a very personal question which each people with answer it's personal to thierselves.
what's my own personal reason why I will download even do I have notes downvoted any content and I don't use to downvote he's when there is hate speech and when there is plagiarism,
The content will be downvoted

Good morning great family, its good to be here again...


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Yes man it's really another beautiful day let do something more here again
Have a nice weekend man


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Where is everyone, the #street is so dry today where has everyone gone to?


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In fact friend it really dry up which I don't know what happen. We need more engagement here


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It might be because , today is Saturday and most people might be busy with some weekends activities.

We are outside playing


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Keep Enjoying your day and have fun as much as you want

Thanks @iyiade. That's what I'm doing. Have a great weekend

!LUV


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Hahhaah enjoy your weekend activity sir 👍

When should we use the
downvote button

Seriously till today I dont what the downvote button is for, if I don't like a post or don't find it interesting,i just pass...

I think the downvote button should be used only when someone plagiarize.
🤔🤔


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i want people like @scholaris.pob @trostparadox.pob @proofofbrainio @onealfa.pob to explain a little to us on downvoting, why they use it, when we should use it. and also will it be healthy for the community members to use it among themselves


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I have written quite a bit about DVs. They can be effectively used to combat 'bad behavior' such as spam and plagiarism. However, free DVs represent an avenue for abuse by whale accounts that makes them unsuitable for Layer 2 (i.e. tribe) use, imho.

Tribes should use the 'mute' feature to combat abuse and either do away with DVs altogether or make them non-financial (i.e. a statement of disagreement rather than a financial penalty) or make them costly (and also further reduce the available # per day).

Removal of DVs on Layer 1 will need to wait until a suitable alternative can be devised for combatting plagiarism and spam (which I believe will come, eventually).

The DV layer is so easy to use, anytime and sometimes I mistakenly use it instead of upvoting, it shouldn't just be a button, it should be available for serious issues against the community "don'ts", not just when someone has a little hate or disagreement with another, the other uses the advantage he has maybe as a curator to downvote all the rewards of the other...


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Thanks sir for replying...


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I've explained a little about downvoting in other articles of POB street. I use the DV to remove rewards from fraudulent articles. People can use the DV to remove rewards for over-rewarded posts. One flaw of Hive is that there is no clear governance on the use of up or down voting.

A consequence of a lack of governance is the formation of groups like HDR and Hivewatchers.

Upvoting is used to reward articles. Downvotes are used to remove rewards, return it to the supply, and stabilize the impact of malicious upvoting. Unfortunately, downvoting is used in a cavalier manner too and upvotes can be as well.

Noted sir..


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What does that mean, noted? Do you agree? Do you not agree? What are YOUR thoughts on the matter? If this article is about engagement, then let's engage about the topic. Tagging me on these articles with one or two word replies doesn't equal conversation.

I've explained a little about downvoting in other articles of POB street. I use the DV to remove rewards from fraudulent articles. People can use the DV to remove rewards for over-rewarded posts..

This is what I replied at..

You just said what you use the DV button for but it's Just you, some downvote because they don't like your post not because there is anything fraudulent in it... And sometimes when that happens, hivewatchers have nothing to do about it, I can downvote anyone without any concrete reason which is bad, before the downvote button is used, they should be a part where we should explain why a post should be downvoted...


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Have you every used Freeze Peach? Here is a link to their discord: Freeze Peach. It's a program used to counter downvotes you don't agree with. You submit a link for whatever comment or article you feel is wrongfully downvoted and submit it for a review. I haven't used them before as the DVs I've received in the past were minimal.

A problem with Hive, in my opinion, is that it's a system trying to have its cake and eat it too with respect to voting. The system is set to allow a freedom of expression with the vote. Upvote and downvote as you please. Such freedom comes with a cost and that is represented in the malicious upvoting and downvoting that can occur. Coupled with the issues inherent in Proof of Stake it seems that we arrive at the problem we have now.

A responsibility we all have is to agree on a set of guidelines. Before we get there though, we need to understand how it's done now and the tools available to monitor and affect it.

On another note, Hive Watchers is a busy group. I don't know that they've ever countered a downvote nor do I think they ever would. I'm busy looking for fraud on this one tribe, I can't imagine the resources it takes to monitor an entire blockchain. And they get death threats...sheesh.

Yes that's true... Waiting for replies from @onealfa.pob @scholaris.pob and @trostparadox.pob..

@proofofbrainio will not respond... ☹️☹️


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Proofofbrainio is quite busy since last 3 months now 😭😭😭

i think it's made for the core team

What can make me use the downvote button is when I see a post with an insult or with hate speech, I will definitely downvote that kind of content.
And that is the major two reason why I can use the downvote button

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