"...the reality is that the citizen doesn't give a shit..."
Well, clearly there are, and always have been, those for which this is true. However, when those that seek to diligently undertake oversight grasp that democratic mechanisms avail them naught, then no one giving a shit matters. Insofar as nothing else can prevent the IC from becoming predatory (as I allege it has) on the public, the elimination of oversight can only be the purpose of an IC that is hostile to it's rhetorical purpose.
I submit that the IC is utterly hostile to meaningful oversight, and always has been. What possible justification can there be for keeping secret from the beneficiaries of its services those services provided? What possible purpose is effected by covert acts that can only be undertaken covertly because the beneficiaries of those acts would absolutely, undoubtedly, refute and repudiate them? The supposition that the IC has ever been intended to protect America is nothing more than a rhetorical device.
This is true not only in America, but all states. I submit the evidence of history and the examples of imperial collapse all states of the past provide to show that the IC granted covert operational authority inevitably destroys the people it is stated to be intended to protect.
I am pleased to learn that even though my perspective is fundamentally foreign to yours, you find it relevant nonetheless.
Agreed. Even at it's purest (HA!), no spymaster wants to give any info out; then you add political alliances with congressfolk and the problem gets worse, then add in political alliance with corruptocrat/leftist congressfolk, and it's as bad as it gets
Disagree. Spying is essential in conflict. I would say that the problem we have now is that the IC is directed by people with a hostile view of America (or those that see the country as a sheep to be sheared); The intelligence process is also useful for any kind of descion-making process; it's essentially a form of critical thinking
Disagree. I would say instead that as the morals of a populace grew weaker, the tolerance of the corrupt (who will ALWAYS subvert the security service as a priority) by the people grows. These trends feed each other, and eventaully the system collapes.
Think Glubb Pasha; this is a historical cycle
Weak men create hard times
Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create hard men
This quote, I like, much
I appreciate your substantial reasons for disagreement with me. However, unless, like I do, you believe humanity is being domesticated, bred and culled purposely, people do not simply vacillate morally. The environment in which their morals are applicable do vacillate, and this is what creates the appearance that the morals of humanity vacillate.
Today it is almost suicidal to express sound morals publicly. In fact, it is suicidal, as the murder of Jessica (don't remember her full name, but am sure you are aware of the event) for stating that all human lives matter, and doing so to a mob of racist black supremacists.
BLM is not simply an organic movement of outraged victims of racist policies. Further, it is fundamentally racist. Black is a racial designation. Regardless of whether some people in it, or even the vast majority (which I do not believe) are opposed to racism, the fact is that the enemedia and bankster elites are using BLM to racially divide humanity, for the profit of globalists.
Our humanity isn't variable. The world in which we are human is. Hard times are catastrophic events, evolution in action, and today it seems that the herd of H.vulgaris that has been bred up by the evolutionary pressures of society controlled by inhuman and inhumane institutions has become sufficient to attain the purpose for which they were bred: to install the cabal of banksters as gods of a global population of slaves utterly dependent on those gods for their continued existence, and the elimination of free men from the gene pool entirely.
In the last 40kyr the mental capacity of humanity has markedly decreased, and this is revealed by our brain capacity shrinking by ~25% in that time. I believe this is the result of the need of psychopathic parasites to control humanity through institutions, that our eusociality is that attribute that most contributes to survival of the fittest in that context, whether that satanic hellspawn has maintained some kind of secret society or simply has the same purpose and capacity to control society as a result of the limitless evil only they can deploy to gain power.
Perhaps today we observe the division of humanity into two species of psychopaths: masters and slaves, and the elimination of free people less eusocial, but capable of both socialization and reason. I note the appearance of H. neanderthalensis going extinct ~40kya but the reality research now reveals that in actually that race of humanity simply was absorbed into H. sapiens.
I actually have been engaged in considerable research on that topic of late, which I should post just to clarify what I have learned from it.
Anyway, I am alarmed at the apparent preparations for martial law and the global imposition of a corrupt tyranny by psychopathic banksters, which seems to certainly be intent on forced DNA alteration of humanity with 'vaccines' for the common cold, as laid out by Bill Gates.
That, not whether Sen. Ron Wyden (my Senator in OR) is or isn't corrupt, is my present concern. I hope I am absolutely delusional, and you are damn right to disagree with me. That is the context for my comments.
agreed.
but ppl are being willfully ignorant, and taking their 30 pieces of silver because it's the easy thing to do...
politicians couldnt get away with their bullshit w/o the tolerance of their actions by the public
maybe that same public would tolerate a few "hunting accidents" suffered by the pols, too, but the point is no one is doing that (which itself doesnt address the problem fully...academia, education, burrocracy, media)
OTOH, I do think that more people are waiting to see what happens in November.
we shall see
Not if we close our eyes really hard, stick our fingers in our ears, and chant "Lalalalala" loudly.
Actually, I think that could only delay it. I think vision is never more clear than in the chute to the abbatoir.
ROFL the middle class bobblehead strategy to the T
I think you'll like this quote from Mosby (Mountain Guerilla)
All effective ops take their targets by surprise. No one should better understand this than Mountain Guerrilla. I did not see him predict social distancing, forced masking, or promotion of violent race riots by the enemedia in my reading of his work.
The general direction of institutional control is not only predictable, but laid out by UN publications, amongst others. However, Tranny Story Time at the local library wasn't only unpredictable, it remains inconceivable, just as preteen drag queens dancing in gay bars, complete with dollar bills stuffed in their tiny banana hammocks, cannot be understood in merely reasonable considerations of societal evolution.
This despite history providing the example of the Weimar Republic. It is instructive to consider the societal evolution of Germany that followed, IMHO.
The disruption of society essential to breaking it enough to impose a new normal depends on unpredictability, because predictability enables nominal countermeasures. Mountain Guerrilla reveals a sound understanding of this principle in discussion of tactical operations. However, the principle is just as applicable strategically, as our enemies reveal to our dismay.
Thanks!
Mosby takes the attitude that what happens outside his local community (specifically, his tribe) isn't his concern.
I have a copy of Forging the Hero I can send you. Let me know, and I'll get you my email addy, and you can whip up a new email for me to send it to you (digital copy)
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I disagree with some of his points on an emotional level,but I can't diagree with them on a factual level. He does take the same basic point that you do, that the USA is an imperial power that is collapsing. His viewpoint is that it is beyond saving.