You are welcome to click through to the numerous linked articles that are the actual subject here, as others have pointed out - sources are typically cited. I'm not sure what you are referring to with the claim of circular references - you are welcome to to explain.
One of the 'influencers' is literally the inventor of the technology that the mRNA vaccines are based on - Dr. Robert Malone, he is speaking in the video I linked in this very post which it seems you haven't watched.
You are viewing a single comment's thread from:
Why let those pesky facts get in the way of "skepitcology's" religious beliefs?
Skepticology doesn't care what the inventor of the MRNA Vaccine has to say, clearly the INVENTOR OF THE VACCINE TECHNOLOGY doesn't know anything.
Religion is a hell of a drug.
I just wrote quite a long reply here to try to cover the key points - but not all of them were covered! There has been a significant debate over his role in the development of the technology and he was even removed from the Wikipedia page on mRNA vaccines after having been on there for years. It's true that he is not the lone inventor of what is in the shots today, but at the same time he was part of the process early on and clearly has a lot to say about it that is coming from a lifetime's experience.
Score credit Social ✊😎🥓👍
Big chanves commin.
I want to be very clear about my point that the vaccines are safe and effective at preventing severe disease from COVID-19. I have no doubt that corporations rule the world, governments are corrupt, and they will kill you for profit. The anti-vaccine campaigners blur these lines and ask us to assume that the vaccines are poison because of political corruption.
I have looked into the claim that Dr. Robert Malone is the inventor of some technolgy. He was one of many scientists experimenting with injecting DNA and RNA into muscle cells in the '80s, but was not involved with subsequent decades-long research that led to lipids being used safely without excessive inflammation. He did not invent any technology, and there are hundreds of scientists that contributed more to these vaccines than he did. I had to pause here because this part seems to rely on argument from authority, which is inconsistent with a philosophy that we should question claims from authority figures. Do you believe him because he is an authority figure or because his views confirm your bias?
As to the claims being made by this self-proclaimed authority figure, he actually recommends using the vaccine for those with the highest risk factors from COVID-19 disease. In the video you posted he says, "I believe that the vaccines need to be used intelligently." His complaints are trivial such as taking issue with the expeditited approval process or the government’s system for tracking adverse reactions, or saying we don't have enough data to administer shots to children. He does not subscribe to the conspiracy theories, and therefore his reputation should not be used to bolster those ideas.
No serious person can claim at the moment that "the vaccines are safe" when there is no data to support it. There are no long term trials.
A statement that would be more correct would be to say that in most cases (people who have received the shot) the adverse effects are slim to date. And then there are also the thousands of people who have actually died from it (mostly due to their age, but that is something that cannot be dismissed)
This claim did not pan out well.