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RE: Good News for SBI Vote Buyers (Sponsors)

in #downvotes4 years ago (edited)

To: @joanstewart, @tryskele
CC: @tristancarax (post), @shadowspub (post), @fenngen (post), @gamer00 (post)
Note: There are almost certainly other posts, but these are ones of which I am aware.

In response to seeing your comments, as a symbolic step of “the resistance,” this post of @mmmmkkkk311 / @mariuszkarowski has been downvoted.

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Not deluding myself that it will make much difference to one of the most obtuse Steemians I have encountered in my “journey” here on the Steem blockchain. But … Rather than simply acquiescing to his tyranny, it is something vs. nothing.

Hopefully this will provide you a little encouragement that you are not alone. And in time, for all of us, we can hope the strength of a good community “closing ranks” proves to be significantly greater than that of a tyrant.


P.S. While most Steemians have some idea about this, I want to make this crystal clear to those who might read this. Receiving a downvote from someone with a higher reputation than yours results in a reduction in your reputation, as well as your pending payout. In this case, resulting in a reduction in the reputation damage done from a tyrant like this, in whatever direction his future downvoting rampages take …

P.P.S. For additional encouragement, some others who have expressed, to one degree or another, aggravation with this tyrant: @whatsup (rep 74), @jongolson (rep 73), @melinda010100 (rep 72), @enginewitty (rep 70), @balte (rep 68) ...

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@roleerob, very nice!

Based on the support I got from the community, based on what people have said about @josephsavage's character, based off of what I've seen in the threads, I see no reason to quit. Until evidence is brought forth that makes me have some questions, I'm here.

Thanks for the update.

Better to cut less critical elements for the overall good. I'm sorry that affects you more than most, since you were relying on comment upvotes.

I never, at least not that I know of, have gotten comment upvotes from sbi. I post to often for that. Or, if that was the way of the old system, I didn't notice because I rarely ever checked to see if I made something from a comment. Most of what I have made has come from the work I've put in through my posts.

Thank you for investing some time into a reply @tristancarax. Agreed about Joseph. Unfortunately, he is bowing to pressure. Not faulting him, as I am sure he is doing what he thinks is best for the SBI community. Particularly since there have yet to be enough of the larger stakeholders in Steem choosing to do anything about this. A fact which almost certainly will not escape MK's notice ...

Good job, like the idea of closing ranks. If the bullying continues we'll have to get more organized to deal with this until we bring it to an end.

Thank you for investing some time into a reply @fenngen. Agreed about closing ranks. Unfortunately, there have yet to be enough of the larger stakeholders in Steem choosing to do anything about this ...

after some discussion with @abitcoinsceptic ... she's not in agreement with him either. She disagreed with me calling him out as a bully but not his actions being wrong. There are many others who have just not been as public in their opposition to the behaviour.

Thank you for investing some time into a reply @shadowspub. Agreed there are "many others," but not banded together. As of yet ...

Yes, I am aware of @abitcoinskeptic's (a male) view, as we had a "lively" discussion on the topic, when he published his concerns about SBI. The big difference, in my view, was he handled them in a comparatively respectful and civil manner. Which, in turn, resulted in @josephsavage putting some ideas before the SBI community for consideration and a voice on adoption.

Not the case with MK ...

If I recall correctly, comment votes were discussed last month as part of the broader discussion. At that time I didn't see a strong case against them. Since then the case against them has strengthened and they're a minor concession that allows us to hold our ground where it really matters.

Perhaps @josephsavage ...

"If I recall correctly, comment votes were discussed last month as part of the broader discussion."

... but I specifically looked for an SBI post similar to this one a couple of months ago re: upvoting bonuses. In which you and I had a good exchange.

I didn't find one ...

Then I went into the Discord channel to specifically ask whether this decision had been put before the community or was an "Admin decision only." To which you replied, "admin decision" (in the #help channel ...).

Not the end of the world, but I stated then and I'll say again now that it was disappointing to me. Both to hear there had been no discussion on a pending decision like that and, to a lesser degree, that comment upvoting was now gone without notice.

I have taken pains, however, to stress in my comments to others that I don't fault you for making a decision like this under growing pressure from the likes of MK. In my limited time on Steem and in Discord, I had seen pretty straightforward stands against this pressure only days before. Just sad to see given what it represents to me ...

I am sure you are doing the best you can, under the circumstances. We'll see what the future brings ...

Yes, sorry. It was an admin decision at this time. I thought that it had been part of the discussion around the upvote rewards too, and didn't need more discussion now, but I guess I was mistaken.

Thanks @roleerob, this has come to my attention over the past couple of months. Seeing people who are trying to assist others having to put up with this harassment, I really felt it is time people closed up the ranks and stood together.

His wealth and reputation mean nothing, if one is not fair in approach, not jealous of another's success, discuss the matter.

If money buys accounts, how many does he control? What if his new accounts with 25 reputation run around downvoting folk, (noted, this does not lose value), but throwing disarray into an already large evolving platform called Steem.

This does not bode well for blockchain, selling the idea when some are able to go around making people feel inadequate. To my knowledge SBI came out from the starting blocks stating it was an experiment, for the people, by the people on blockchain, if better ideas come into fruition let them build a side chain and present it.

Plain and simply put bully tactics do not work, should never work. Certain platforms I don't agree with I avoid them by not supporting, free choice?

Thank you for investing some time into a reply @joanstewart. And thank you for the courage to take a stand with your first downvote ever. "May your tribe increase" ...

Agreed about closing ranks, although you will note my caveat in my response to @fenngen above.

Hard to know what the future of the SBI community will be, as Joseph continues to make changes in response to the pressure. I would like to agree with you here ...

"Plain and simply put bully tactics do not work, should never work."

... but MK's campaign has already had a substantial negative / destructive impact, as there has, at least thus far (in my view), been an insufficient response from those with sufficient resources to get his attention.

Steem Society needs to try work in building blockchain technology in a positive fashion, negative impact will eventually wear everyone down.

Thanks for insight, not much anyone can do but grin and bear it for now.

@roleerob,

I am sure there are other's, and I have sadly been added to the ranks I see...

Imagine...

Someone with the soul intent of spreading positive energy on the Blockchain, with what I felt was an awesome idea; a contest to share #bestseasonalthoughts...

I could go on, that I suffer from Multiple Sclerosis, and the funds I was using to reward participants was my own. Even used #sbi-skip... but then I wouldn't want anyone to think I was going anywhere...

Much respect to you my friend...

Thank you @wesphilbin. While I did something vs. nothing, the response was pretty uhhh ... "muted." Unfortunately, far too typical of those with whom we engage here on the Steem blockchain ...

I have commented in more detail on your affected post. Have a great Sunday!

We're all doing what we can. For me, that's continuing to support my contests with SBI prizes. Keep on keeping on. I'm not sure what else can be done. We're upstanding, SBI is upstanding. There's not a lesson for us to learn here. Just... Perseverance.

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