I'm going to come back and read all of this. Incredibly thoughtful from what I did scan.
If steemit really cared about stopping spam or shit posting with flagging, they would have added the long requested functionality to flagging, where a person has to select from a list the reason for flagging, and leave a comment with a min character count to say why.
That's kind of what we do with @steemflagrewards. Took it upon myself to create a system where users may properly moderate and receive rewards for legitimate flags (NO OPINION FLAGS). We've received a fair amount of community support and are approaching 100k SP but, unfortunately, Steemit Inc has not shown interest as of yet.
Note: Opinion flags bases on idealogy. Technically we do flag based on our subjective evaluation of rewards specifically as it pertains to bid bots.
With their support, we could go after bad whales, flag em, comment why, vote that comment with an alt and burn the rewards.
...Or alternatively if they desire work out a community support curation initiative with the rewards. We have the bodies in our Discord of about 450-425 (fluctuates) strong and I'm sure we can easily find volunteers among them.
The great thing about our community is the culture and ethos we share. We aren't just trying to bring any jerk trying to make a quick buck but are full of people that really care about the platform and have higher integrity imho.
I'm off on a tangent. Sorry you are being targeted. I'll take a look at your blog, maybe create a post about your comment later. Check out @steemflagrewards if you have time.
I have heard of you guys, and I have so much respect for you as people, and for what you do. Flag rewards, where legitimate flags are rewarded, and I am guessing if submitted illegitimate flags are also picked up on. Sadly sometimes, you end up being portrayed as part of the problem. Normally by little users who you guys flagged for copying something they say a big user doing. But that is a wider problem of steemit not backing a project that is already addressing this.
The work you guys do makes such a difference, and would be a much better way of dealing with the problem. If steemit got behind you, then you could take on the big users who are problems. I find it hard not to feel for people who copy a big user and get flagged for it.
There being integrity and a sense of responsibility behind flagging is so important. Flags should be motivated by wanting to improve the platform, not pettiness, personal feelings or wanting to earn more. If steemit gave you the backing, and made it so they at least logged the reason for a flag themselves, there would be an accountability behind what you did. I also bet that would be fascinating data.
A very on point and parallel tangent, and kind of the other side to the coin. The user base has already come together to support you as the way to address spam and shit posters.
It is a good point that it is all subjective, but then that makes it hard. The flagging you guys do is different to the flagging that really causes problems, and I would like to see these things separated. Although that said, people still get very upset, but if you were backed, and the functionality of flagging was there so they could see why they had been flagged there could be so much more. Its a tangent of my own, but if flagging was left to people who understood what they were doing, a group that ordinary users could click to report things to in place of flagging, it would be far more effective in stopping abuse and addressing the issues.
The person who flags me does no damage at all, it is purely trying to hurt my feelings so I have ignored it entirely until now. But I know I am not alone, and that a lot of people in the same position are hit more by being flagged out of spite or as part of splatter retaliation flagging, and are more upset by it, and given the amount of people I have crossed paths with who have been misflagged, I couldn't not say something. Thank you very much for your response, I was pretty anxious about having posted this and getting others to sincerely consider some of these things is the most I had hoped for here. Thank you :)
I do admire this flagging system to the extent it discourages spam, theft, hate speech, etc. Like you said, our perception of things can be subjective as we are humans. So, it might be a question of whether we want a centralized governing body police us or if we would rather attempt to decentralize that policing system. If the policing system can mirror a decentralized, constitutional (blockchain) republic (Steem), if it could seek after three or four branches of governments in Steem, then that might be better. I don't downvote. I don't promote flagging. I promote voting on what we like. I like something, I upvote it. I ignore other things. I don't have time to downvote. But I understand why people downvote. To some extent, I feel tempted to maybe downvote sometimes. So, it might be a better choice to sometimes downvote sometimes. I understand that. Have a good day.
I think its going to cause more hate
Ohhh.
They seem to forget that voting against others can also be a strategy to reduce competition. A tactic backed by those who voted for HF21 (I was not asked).
If a person with a higher reputation can reduce the reputation of another with a lower reputation, without any requirement or condition, this can turn into a war of flags and markings, rather than content and ideas.
Technically, that is already a problem. But at the same time, it can also be a good thing. I like free markets. You know that the free market is not safe. But I like it. Steem might not be a free market. But if it was a free market, it would be very dangerous. If Steem was too safe, it would be not a free market. If this second pool is a bad idea, we will all write posts about that.
STOP PROMOTING YOUR FLAG GROUP....
YOU HAVE THE BIGGEST WHALE PLAGERIST DESTROYER AS YOUR BACKER
HE HAS DRIVEN GREAT CONTENT PROVIDERS OFF THE PLATFORM
YOUR GROUP OF ZEALOTS GOES AFTER LITTLE GUYS and done more damage to an already crippled system by driving so many off the platform.
You put up bounties on content creators who can't fight you and have to cowtow to you.
you don't follow rules like cheetah and you vilify people.
you then tell contest runners promoting new contests to change their rules or you threaten with a group of attack dogs who only do it because your cheating angle playing funder is putting up bounty money!
if you did not have that 2 whales (who plagiarize even in their avatars) you have nothing.
there is no adjucation, tos, your only a group of fake vigilantes.
Who?
What's wrong with a plagiarist destroyer?
Or are you too afraid to speak up?
Oh yeah? Tell this "little guy" to fuck off the platform. https://steempeak.com/@crystalliu
Oh wait, you won't. You can't. You are more interested in your overbid memes. That will soon change.
Who may I ask?
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What exactly is your grievance? Say it in no uncertain terms. Who do we protect? Substantiate your claim... Otherwise, respectfully request you
Shut 👏 the 👏 front 👏 door 👏
And stop bitching about things SFR has insufficient power to deal with ffs.
Edit: Sorry get a little frazzled by this naysayers rude approach. I'm ok. Note I didn't flag him. He got on Bernie's naughty list.
Yeah, that ain't right but my hands are tied. We are a pseudo decentralized org and I'm not the one that says when we go to war and with whom.
Our consensus is currently.
SFR doesn't flag whales. SFR doesn't flag whales. SFR doesn't flag whales. (Look at our SP. Be smart)
Got it now, @joe.public?
You didn't "drain" any of his accounts if that's what you are on about. Probably just taking a break or a glitch in the script.
I didn’t flag you for anything.
Ah so he chose to
Flag me manually just
For the fun of it??
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