Make sure you stay 6 feet apart! Make sure you wear a mask! You're an attempted murderer if you don't wear a mask! If you don't do this, we are going to threaten you with theft through fines, or arrest you. You better do as we say!
Well it turns out that was overblown hysteria again. Those who "might" be sick, but don't know it as they don't have any symptoms -- the asymptomatic -- very rarely spread the virus.
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Yesterday, Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said it was "very rare" for asymptomatic people to pass the disease on. The WHO says COVID-19 can still spread, but the asymptomatic shouldn't be a focus. Governments should instead focus on detecting and isolating infected people with symptoms, says the WHO.
For months people who don't wear masks have been shamed by mostly Left-leaning people. It has become some sort of virtue signaling to wear a mask.
At first masks were worn by people who feared getting sick. Then the facts got out that wearing a mask was not going to prevent you from getting sick. It hardly did anything as the virus is so small that the cloth masks don't filter it, and air even gets in from the sides. Even Fauci in March or April said wearing a mask was not going to help you not get sick, and that people shouldn't bother. he later changed his position though, encouraging peopel to wear measks.
This is because the narrative shifted from wearing masks to prevent yourself from getting inected, to wearing a mask to prevent others from getting infected. Why? Because you could be sick, and not know it. You don't cough or sneeze. I think people thought that by simply breathing you were going to be projecting virus around and infecting people.
But when you're asymptomatic, you don't have much of the virus in you, so you aren't going to be expelling much even if you do sneeze from an irritation. It's been concluded that the severity of symptoms is associated with more virus loads in the body. At least that's what we're told as to how that worked.
The asymptomatic spread of the virus is now not that much concern. It can happen, but it's not the main way it has been spreading. Van Kerkhove said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency’s Geneva headquarters:
"From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual."
She also added that more research is needed to know with more certainty, but the initial studies with lower sample populations shows it's very rare for asymptomatic to spread the virus.
"We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing. They’re following asymptomatic cases. They’re following contacts. And they’re not finding secondary transmission onward. It’s very rare."
"“What we really want to be focused on is following the symptomatic cases. If we actually followed all of the symptomatic cases, isolated those cases, followed the contacts and quarantined those contacts, we would drastically reduce" the outbreak.
They are still pushing forward with the whole tracking, tracing and testing people in order to isolate/quarantine them. This is despite over 99% of healthy people surviving. With 95% of people dying from COVID-19 having pre-existing medical conditions in the UK. It's similar in Italy.
Most of the deaths also come from the elderly, as can be seen in Italy. "99% who died had one pre-existing health condition: 49% had three or more health conditions; 26% had two other ‘pathologies’, and 25% had one."
When you look at the death count in Italy, you see 33,601 total alleged COVID-19 deaths. If you look at total deaths in Italy and consider that only about 12% of the alleged COVID-19 deaths are actual COVID-19 deaths, you get 4,032 dead instead of 33,601. That's quite the difference.
I've gone over much of the evidence about the inflated death counts in Italy and the US, admittedly. How the infected fatality rate is within the same range as the flu at 0.26%. How the annual world flu deaths is between 290,000,000 to 640,000,000. This corona pandemic is very similar to a flu pandemic, except it spread more quickly due to likely being a bio-engineered strain. How HCQ and other natural treatments work but have been suppressed by the medical system, government and media for financial and political motives.
Even the UK, the government had classified COVID-19 as not a high consequence disease in March when the whole lockdown fiasco started:
As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a High Consequence Infectious Disease (HCID) in the UK.
Yet countries pursued agenda to destroy the economy for the middle class and poor, while executing pre-planned bailout schemes that mostly benefited the rich crooks in the financial sector who made bad business decisions pre-COVID-19. Go figure that their mistakes go not only unpunished, but rewarded by siphoning the taxes to enslave everyone with debt.
Wow the conspiracy theorist were right again. Go figure. I can't handle my nation full of sheep. It's tiring to not trigger them. I can't even post what I want on facebook without it getting slammed. I have friends (leftist of course) in GRAD school who took IMMUNOLOGY with me who were shooting out this nonsense. FOOLS. UGH. At this point the media could convince us to wear tinfoil on our head.
The government and media say to jump, and most ask "how high"? :/
Same thing happened to me on FB. I even got threatened via DM of “publicly shaming me in front of the music industry if I kept spreading tinfoilhattery”. It seems the people really like fascism nowadays
There seem to have been several huge reversals this last week or so on policies and perspectives that have been sold to the masses for months now: the WHO updating its how-to on masks (one time use only), the anti-Hydroxy etc. study that was pulled by its own author, Cuomo mentioning NY hospitals labelling other causes of death as Covid, and then now this statement. Wow.
Yeah it's unraveling bit by bit, by people are still buying the narrative since they don't really try to figure this thing out for themselves (i.e. think for themselves) and just accept the media (dis)info.
I always had a mask! I am not paranoid but if we all get chipped with a tracker through coercive vaccination, shinobis go up in smoke. This is so dystopian. The farmers really got everyone to obey? I act responsible by staying under the radar. But I will lick that dirt to become immune, because that's what I always did. I tent in the swamp highlands and watch at a distance. I hear all of you and I listen! Gotta say, living in the world of think tanks it's strange to see this unfold and not being able to state your real opinion before having facts. I really am not sure whats going on but no one who believes this ever heard about systems biology and electron microscopes.
There's a lot that doesn't add up and when you look at the data, it just blows holes into the official narrative that has pervaded to instill us with fear.
Well put! I agree.
Yeah and even more hilarious is that only 24 hours after that, they reversed course and say they didn't really mean it. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52977940
On a related note, why is it the world's biggest and best health care systems are the ones failing to handle the pandemic? If you sort countries by deaths per capita, the worst countries supposedly have the best health care systems.
Maybe because those are usually the more wealthy countries, that have more elderly people and a big problem with obesity and diabetes?
Well they didn't really renege on it, at least not Kerkhove, she tried to include explanations about other data to say that it's not certain that this is the case lol. Like the high ups got calls from Gates who told them to clean up the mess, this isn't what your suppose to be telling people. Like sharpshot said, probably more old people, and the US is lowest in health in all developed countries.
It is all about creating fear so those that THINK they have power can #divideandconquer. Believe when I say though, that they are afraid of a people united under a common cause. I think this has awoken a large number of people who are tired of the lies and status quo.
#unitedwestand
They need is to be afraid more then we need them.
Yup thats why the new race war/civil war will keep people dumbed down from identifying the governemnt/state vs. rest of us problem.
Coming next -- America falls like the Roman Empire due small businesses being shut down from this "plandemic". And people who hang on the every word of the media are the first to die from starvation. Do people think the media is correct at this point? I am about ready to lose my mind over the topic.
The new CHAZ zone is going to be something to watch for retarded crap and degeneration of society. Good luck to all those people (not).
It's a whole lot of "You're probably fine, but maybe not, but we'll see. We didn't actually study for this test." lol
Personally, I'm taking it rather seriously. I'm not particularly concerned about my own mortality as I fall into the super healthy and relatively young category. But a majority of my family falls into the vulnerable category. I wear a mask and face shield to keep them safe. Ideally, I'd just stay home like so many others, but the mail never stops.
Yes. That is responsible behaviour. :)
What do you mean the mail never stops or you'd stay home? Do you work in the postoffice?
Yes. I'm a mail carrier. It sucks to not have the option of working from home but I'm just grateful to still have a steady paycheck.
At this point, unfortunately, we can't put any faith in anything health officials say. There has been so much false and conflicting information put out regarding COVID-19 that they have lost all credibility.
As a New Yorker who personally knows several people who have died from the virus, I'm going to continue to take it seriously and take basic, common sense precautions. Wear a mask when I'm inside near other people, wash my hands often and avoid crowded places. Ultimately, though, life is full of risks and you can't stop living it because you are afraid something bad will happen.
Have you seen this?
There must of been a lot of asymptomatic spread because over 7 million people have tested positive. That's just from the small percentage of people that have been tested. I don't think there's any way it spread so much when people with symptoms were being told to stay at home, unless those without symptoms were also spreading it.
also, that is a normal rate of spread for a virus of this sorts. The flu spreads in a very similar way. They took normal contagion and freaked people out. I am sorry -- but this narative is WRONG.
Actually what the data says is that this is more virulent than the flu (which doesn't remain aerosol and contagious for 3 hours), causes a much higher rate of hospitalization among those who are infected, and is much more likely to cause lifelong health effects to those who recover. This is in addition to the much higher mortality rate and the massive increase in deaths we have seen over normal flu season.
This isn't to say that legacy media or government reports should be mindlessly believed, because they have no credibility. But if you strictly look at a body count - there is a real event happening here. Its not a fantasy created by the media.
I am going to be completely honest, I have a lot of issues with the data being collected. It’s sad that I have this level of distrust of the CDC and WHO. Also, the virulence can also be accounted for due to lots of different factors.
Time will tell what’s really happening. I don’t think that these industries have our best interest at heart — saving our lives is not above profits. And the data is sketchy. There are many ways to manipulate data. I don’t have anything to give you that is concrete; I do know that.
I can’t prove to people that crypto will take off. All I can say is that time will tell, and there is a side that I am betting on. And I don’t trust the government as far I can throw them — I’ll tell you that.
Unless the tests were false positives.
It's possible and it has been researched:
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In other words - you can't trust the numbers.
It takes 14 days for symptoms to show up some times, while you're apparently contagious before that. That's how it can spread from people who eventually show symptoms.
the mask that will protect us from the virus at the highest probability is 95 but we cannot find this mask or we can not wear it even at a very high price. It is ridiculous for us to ask so much money for a mask.
@krnel
Well if they fear the virus that much then ppl will pay for that mask.
Yes, you are completely right. What I complain about is that they want more than $ 20 for 1 n95 mask.
The whole wear a mask thing is ludacris. People were just in panic mode and obeyed like sheeps. Scared sheeps. Of course that the hungry wolves planned for this for some time.
I find it hard to believe that its a coincidence that every place where most people wear a mask, they have a much lower death rate. Maybe it is just a coincidence but I see no harm in wearing a mask? We were told not to wear one in the UK, I find that more suspicious. There's lots of face recognition cameras here. Now the virus isn't killing anywhere near the same numbers of people, masks are going to become compulsory on public transport. How crazy is that?
There are so many mixed feelings about this. Some wear it, some don't. Some require it, some say it is not necessary.
Pure folly what comes out of Gates' WHO.
"But when you're asymptomatic, you don't have much of the virus in you, so you aren't going to be expelling much even if you do sneeze from an irritation. It's been known that the severity of symptoms required more virus loads in the body. At least that's what we're told as to how that worked"
Bullshit. Severity of symptoms in not necessarily related to the virus load in the body. You can have low virus load but have genetic predisposition and/or underlining medical conditions that will make your symptoms severe.
Also, your article is cherry picked, based on one article from CNN which is inaccurate (which is also cherry picked itself) then twisted into your opinionated, halfwit gibberish opinion.
Why won't you use other, more accurate information that has been written in other news to give the actual picture of what WHO meant and what different scientists/research says:
"WHO expert backtracks after saying asymptomatic transmission 'very rare'"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/09/who-expert-backtracks-after-saying-asymptomatic-transmission-very-rare
"Unpacking the New WHO Controversy Over Asymptomatic COVID-19 Transmission"
https://time.com/5850256/who-asymptomatic-spread/
Only scientifically illiterate clowns like you can confuse you with being smart and the bullshit written in your articles as factual (as there are plenty in your comment section).
STOP SPREADING LIES AND MISINFORMATION.
YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER SCIENTIFICALLY ILLITERATE, COGNITIVIELY DEFICIENT, CONSPIRACY THEORY LUNATIC.