Missing products: The downside of living abroad

in ASEAN HIVE COMMUNITY3 years ago

There are a ton of advantages to living overseas in less developed countries. The main one being that life, just generally speaking is a lot cheaper. This is what attracts a lot of digital nomads and online teachers to these parts of the world. You need significantly less moolah to make ends meet or dare I say even thrive.

I make significantly less money here than I did back in the west but at the end of the month if I don't go crazy with my dinner and drinking expenses I would imagine that I am actually able to put more of my "paycheck" into the bank than I would be able to do back "home." Most of this is because rent and bills are much much lower here than they are in the west, particularly big cities. For example, I live in a relatively compact but more than big enough condo that is 2 blocks from the beach for under $300 a month. I don't think you can even get an apartment at all in USA for that kind of money.

That doesn't mean that everything is wonderful though because there are a lot of products that you simply cannot get here and it can be frustrating at times. Here are a few products that I really miss and can not get no matter how much I was willing to pay for them.


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The cereal selection in this country and those around it leaves a lot to be desired. I believe it is because the Asian market never really took to having cereal in the morning (or at all) and therefore the demand doesn't justify the existence of the product at all. Other than things like Corn Flakes and Frosties (Frosted Flakes) you can't really count on any sort of product being available at all. The brands I miss the most are Lucky Charms, Count Chocula, and Captain Crunchberries. I have seen Lucky Charms in a couple of shopping centers but they were imported and therefore cost nearly $15 for a box. I like them, but I don't like them that much.

Next up is seasoning packets. The two in question that I miss the most are the taco seasoning and those ranch dressing packets where all you have to add is mayo and milk to create like a gallon of the stuff.


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Large size basically anything as far as clothes are concerned are tough to find. I am not a huge guy, but I am much bigger than your average Vietnamese person. This makes getting thigs like shirts, trousers, socks, underpants and especially shoes difficult to find.

The S / M / L system can not be trusted here either. I didn't realize that these sizes are not universal when I arrived and I bought a pack of "L" sized t-shirts only to discover that they would probably have fit me when I was in 7th grade. If you are an average size male (probably female too) from the West living in Vietnam you need to buy much larger sizes than you would need to back home. It can be a little odd ordering XXXL underpants when you consider yourself to be a normal sized human but you better, because you are going to be incapable of fitting into them otherwise.

We also are missing a lot of canned goods but the one I miss the most is probably soup. We actually do have Campbell's Tomato and Chicken Noodle soup, but it costs 3 times as much as it does in the west and since you can get noodle soups on just about every street corner, it doesn't make much sense to buy this product and therefore, ever few people ever do so.


I can't say for certain why a lot of these products do not exist here but I think much of it has to do with me over-estimating my value to the community here. The expat population is a VERY small portion of the overall demographic makeup of Vietnam, so there isn't much incentive for them to try to cater to us. I would imagine that Asians living in the United States probably go through the same thing. I know that after living over here for just a few years I went to a Vietnamese noodle shop in the states just to see what it was like and it was really expensive for one thing, and didn't taste authentic at all.

I suppose it is a global phenomenon!

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 3 years ago  

I'm searching my mind about things that I miss from home that I can't get here and am not really coming up with anything. This might be a Vietnam specific thing. Cereals are not terribly popular in Thailand though and i kind of found out why one day when I bought some cocoa Krispies. The intense humidity turns your Krispies into "mushies" in just a few days unless you air con your house 24/7 and I don't know anyone wealthy enough to do that. My house doesn't even have air con anywhere except in the bedroom.

 3 years ago  

Maybe just like chrisinphuket is describing you guys get a lot more products because the expat population in Thailand is higher than in Vietnam. I have no idea if that is true or not but I have heard rumblings that there are dramatically more foreigners living in Thailand than here.

 3 years ago  

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Well I've been over here quite a while and can't say as I miss anything specific from the States as far as food. I was happy to adapt to local food and living in Phuket allows foreigners to find whatever they like to buy of course for a price. But hey for each their own. For me it was more when I was living in India I would really miss some east asian food especially tofu. Luckily there is a Chinese community living in Kolkutta. Vietnam surely has less foreigners living there than Thailand and doesn't have nearly the amount of foreign products from what I saw... As you said less demand. Anyway sometimes over here we need somethings to look for to interest ourselves... Good luck in finding your items :)

 3 years ago  

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 3 years ago  

I really wish I enjoyed Vietnamese food more than I do. I am yet to find that one dish that just blows my mind. I know that Pho is internationally renowned but when I eat it at the source (the source being Vietnam) I just don't get the allure. To me it is rather tasteless.

I have to agree with you. I had been living in Cambodia practically starving for decent food outside of my friend Justin's cooking and was looking forward to some nice Vietnamese food. I did come across one fantastic restaurant on my travels but besides that yes I found it quite tasteless as well. No place is perfect but Thai food does me right every time :) I really don't get all the hype for Vietnamese food after living there truthfully. The coffee on the other hand is quite good.

 3 years ago  

You never know what you'll miss until you leave. For me, quality socks and underwear are a let-down in SE Asia, and I only buy them on my rare trips back to the USA.

 3 years ago  

hahaha, it is funny you would mention that. I have ordered socks on our version of Amazon called Lazada so many times and when they arrive they are either the size I would think a toddler might be able to wear or they break and tear in no time flat.

It also hurts my feeling when I have to order XXXL shirts to have them even remotely fit me. An XXXL shirt in the States would be a tent to I'm guessing the size is relative to the nation and is not a universal thing at all. I can't order clothes online because of this. but whatever, having nice clothes has never really been my thing anyway.

 3 years ago  

Do you not have supermarkets geared towards expats there? We have them in Chiang Mai and while the items do tend to be massively marked up, we still have access. It is strange to me that you don't have this as well.

 3 years ago  

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 3 years ago  

If we do have those places I am unaware of them. There is a smaller chain of mid-sized stores called Moon Milk (strange name for a business) that does their best to accommodate the foreign palate, but it's still pretty slim pickins.

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