UBI Works - Basic Income Talking Points Fact Sheet

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Let me read this document for you, and you can tell me what you think afterwards.

Find the document for yourself at https://ubiworks.ca/factsheet

A few main points from this report,

1 "Technology is polarizing economic opportunity & quality of life, contributing to wage stagnation shifting"
2 "Labour is diminishing in importance to production due to technology"
3 "Growth in low skill & low income jobs is outpacing high income"
4 "42% of Canadian jobs are at high risk of automation in the next 20 years."
5 "Basic income increases entrepreneurship and gives everyone the ability to take risks."
6 "Basic income can end poverty and improve health & educational outcomes."

If you recieved a basic income, what would you spend it on?

Food? Rent? A new business?
Let me know what you think below.
Thanks for listening!


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Binary polls on UBI are dumb because people who don't critically think will generally agree that it's a good idea in theory but once you start getting into a back and forth on the numbers and economics opinions vary wildly. The problem with reading this document and then making a judgement is that it only makes a strong case in favour of UBI and would bias anyone taking a poll. Parsing these things out in the data driven nature they have laid out is interesting but highly flawed. This methodology allows them to cherrypick whatever statistic makes their case best especially when you consider nearly every statistic they used assumed a causality link when the data merely shows correlation. The only thing CERB can be certain to have caused is inflation which they failed to mention.

I'm not anti UBI but I think the important thing to consider is how other social programs and other initiatives can more effectively solve many of these problems. Food deserts can be solved directly with food banks. Wanting more people to start small businesses is solved way better with grants. The most interesting thing to consider in all this is the technology and automation angle. I don't see how UBI can be affirmed as a solution to this problem and is just as myopic as hashtag learntocode.

Many people used CERB in very wasteful ways like getting drunk and only 10% used it to start a business. I don't really like to judge people for what they choose to spend their money on but its important to note how effective these programs are and we will likely see an uptick in people judging other people's purchases when they have it in their mind that it's coming out of their taxes so this has the potential to increase animosity in communities.

The bill has been introduced and read.
https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/bill/C-223/first-reading

3 (1) The Minister must develop a national framework for the implementation of a guaranteed livable basic income program throughout Canada for any person over the age of 17, including temporary workers, permanent residents and refugee claimants.

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stop promoting ubi.

Just reading the document for educational purposes. We can understand what is coming next, and plan accordingly.

I see ads about this multiple times a day on Facebook. I am not sure where to draw the line in the sand when it comes to this topic, I see it as a slippery slope.

I also see your point.

I knew you would probably be against this, my personal opinion is that the continued expansion of the money supply will inevitably lead Canada to the same fate Venezuela had. I recently had a conversation with someone who grew up during the transition to communism in Venezuela and she told me, we must not take our right to vote for granted.

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Looks like Venezuela already.

Yeah thats what ive been talking about. I thought it was bad from 2012-2018, but in 2020 I warned that the government would never give up their unlimited spending power.

Nor have they...they just keep pressing on to the people who do not want to see what is going on. Weird that those people complain about the meat cheese leafy green and milk prices rising but do not want to do anything about it....It is is the DUMBfall of the country.
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As a Ukrainian descendant it will be 9ver my dead body my system is used against me, the person.

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To clarify, the group that put out this report is named "UBI Works".

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