It's the announcement no one was waiting from an community page that's collecting dust. This post is an update for the community page.
I'll be setting this as a pinned post on the community page for a quick recap. The community page/account has been given to OCD due to mod inactivity.
I felt that the page was such a waste of potential for tackling on a popular niche topic but with low engagement levels. I could always attribute part of the problem was due to mods having a life outside the platform to get busy over but it's not entirely that.
This community never really had a strong presence when it comes to being a community. It was just a page people used for posting rotation because it is a convenient niche to get into while doing another post for another community under OCD incubation. It felt most (not all) weren't passionate about the topic, they just have a convenient place to write about and raise their chances of getting larger rewards especially if the page lacks other creators to compete for curator attention.
@dlstudios handed me the keys to the community account and stepped down as one of the page's admins. The choice was to make another community or continue this one? It wasn't a difficult decision as a sense of community is where you make it and it doesn't live on some page. This meant rebranding or continuing didn't matter on the grand scale of things.
I made some changes with the community rules and will call it now that some changes to those rules will be made as needed in the future. We'll get to those in a little while.
To save some time speculating, forget what you read from the curation criteria for anime realm. This community isn't going to be focused on making public receipts who did a good job. Everyone is a curator once they have a Hive account and they can influence what posts can trend on this community page for more visibility.
Don't hope for a larger community curation account to boost your post when you're sharing it here. You share your post here because you want the visibility of other people that are into the niche too, not because of the rewards that should be a side perk. This doesn't mean I discourage anyone not to bother with making their posts great while posting here. Community curators still look for good posts and if some of them happens to drop by this community, wouldn't it be great if your post just stood out?
On the long term, I intend to share the nice things this community has outside Hive to spread the word about the blockchain and get more anime enthusiasts onboard. Our growth as a community is dependent on new users entering outside Hive.
Community Rules:
No Uploads of Full Episodes or links to full episodes.
Memes are fine but make sure it's Hive related in context. Encourage a discussion while you're at it.
I'll be watching how this plays out. Whether you're team long form vs short form content, both have their own appeals. Anime has a lot of meme potential and 1 photo can be more entertaining several hundred word review over some show you cant bring yourself to care about.
Original content please. If you sourced parts of the content from somewhere else, mention it.
Translations from non-English to English posts are fine. English is highly encouraged.
Once in a while, there's an idiot that translates an anime review from some other source from their own language to English and then it's difficult to get it checked for plagiarism. Not only does this make curation difficult but it spoils the rest of non-Native English speakers doing their best. I don't mind multilingual posts but I'd likely skip over some posts I don't understand (fair game I'm not a native English speaker).
Translations of non-English content to English content that you do not own AND forgetting to mention the source is not allowed.
Posting spam and plagiarized content will get you muted.
I prefer this community just grows into a place where anime enthusiasts come together, share topics under the niche and just chill. It's much easier to earn some votes and community trust if you're participating in something you're interested in.
I made a new discord server for this community but will mention it in the future. I got some plans in mind for the place but I'm taking this one step at a time.
If you made it this far reading, thank you for your time.
It's genuinely hard as fuck to keep motivation going in a community, especially if it's quite niche. Two of the greatest issues are finding moderators that have the time and motivation to stick around and basically treat it like a part time job, as well as finding a way to ensure those moderators do actually get a little something for their efforts in a financial sense. Otherwise you circle back to the motivation issue again as people realise the time they're putting in may be fun, but not rewarding enough to set aside other activities in life that may have priority and better rewards.
That said, definitely try to find some mods. See if there's anyone active that is willing to help carry some of the weight. See if you can find a way to reward them with the work they do. With the movies one there's two mods; each of us from a different timezone, which really helps monitor things when others aren't around. I think if we had more than two even at our size, it'd be a bit chaotic handling and managing everything. Keep numbers in mind as well.
I'll keep an eye on this place now I know it is going to get a bit of life pushed back into it; curate when I can. I don't think anime is all that niche on here anymore, I think people just need to find this place outside of the numerous larger communities that are more broad they can post in.
Given how low the community participation is right now, it's fairly easy to track what goes on in the community page. I'm just doing most of this stuff for kicks and giggles on Hive time and less about the monetary motivation. When votes don't come, which is what people usually post for, they stop. I'm looking for just a handful of people who just likes to share about this stuff by default.
I'll think about rewarding mods when the community proportionately grows in size but nothing like that seems to be feasible at this point.
Yeah, just something to consider for the future.
I'm sure the community will start to gain traction again now somebody is behind the wheel. Anime/manga is far from a niche these days. :^)
Once you've got that Discord server relaunched, might be worth getting a little contest going to build some awareness and numbers. OCD could probably help with a big push through that, actually.
I know I've said it before: but since our communities are pretty similar, feel free to reach out if you need help or think there's something we could do to contribute. Even if it's finding a way to direct people posting in the Movies & TV Shows community over to The Anime Realm.
You know, Im a big fan of anime in general but never posted in here because I just dint feel like it was a good place to post into, too little engagement, few posts to comment on... It just dint feel right, I usually comment every post in the last 3 to 4 days wherever I do post in whatever community I end up posting, and is sad to see a community die down in such a tedious way like this one, for example of this.
All blue tabs are Movies n TV shows post that i will be commenting today. Yet I remembered this post and decided to take my tame and pass by... Just to say hi.
Hey, thanks for stopping by. I remember that post and foreseeing how much time I can finally put into the page but then life happens and got stacked up with other priorities that matter more than blogging for kicks and giggles. It's still on my to do list when on Hive just not at the top right now. I don't really find this community dying a bad thing given that it's just a reflection on people's expectations about their blogging experience. The blunt way to put it is, people, majority of the time, post for the votes and less about the community. Even when this page had multiple names active, there's barely an exchange of communications among users. They post and go.
Now they flock their content to other related communities and you'll see some of the familiar names their with low engagement levels. It's mostly for the $ post and less about being genuinely interested because they just want to share anything. I have nothing against people that post for this motivation but I'd just prefer this community have people posting because they just want to talk about anime related stuff. There are still curators lurking around checking this page.
The discord server exists, I just haven't made it public since it was live months ago. I can't really put more time to organize internet stuff for now.
I think i was on the discord server, but in the last year purge (I do a yearly clean up of dead discord servers) i think it was deleted, just alongside of other hive dead projects like "la radio" and stuff like that... I think i deleted it because I never saw a single soul talking on it, Maybe one day this place gets lifted up and we get to remove the webs out of it, as well as the dust and maybe a few dead spiders and skeletons, but right now im just happy to know you still active on hive, and that sometimes people do post in here, If it ever reaches to 10 to 20 people per week I would spamm my comments in here, maybe not a post, but comments is a surefire thingy with me xD I kind of do a lot of them when I do become active on hive.
Ah, I think you meant the old server where it was just deleted by the previous owner. I'm referring to the one mentioned on the post I've written. I didn't share the link to that new server.
Here's my take on general overall inactivity on Hive in some communities, it's controversial, as much as I want to believe people are really interested about the stuff they post, there's that side nagging thought that at the back of my head, it's all just a quota and a chance to get some votes. I know not everyone operates on this mentality and they actually blog what they are interested in and money becomes a side benefit.
If I see a user that has a social media presence outside Hive posting anime art on social media sites that don't involve money for sharing content, I'm likely to believe these people like what they do and it's less about the profit motive because they've been already doing content for free. But for people that got on Hive and just happen to like anime get a whack at the content creation gig, I'm less likely convinced until they start being consistent at the hobby.
This is the base level of expectation I have with the Hive community in general and I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing because it's the system ingrained but it also highlights how human behavior works if someone who never even remotely expressed they like anime suddenly posted about anime just cause some activity and big votes flocked into a community. I could be wrong and this is just my unsolicited opinion on the inactivity we have.
Eventually you'll see people will post on areas that have likely the same interest and we will eventually find each other online. But for now, maybe there aren't a lot of people that actually make up the numbers to be subjectively considered an active community. I know my art community here on Hive is made up of 3-5 members with 3 as a base minimum and we're still running the community.
Well it was not unsolicited, in fact I agree to some of your points about the inactivity, Yes I was referring to the old server I think, I guessed it was the new one but It seems I was wrong on that guess, I usually dont do content at all, in fact, Hive is my first content creation experience at all, I began two years ago here, about late February, the account was made on November because a friend insisted on me doing it and checking it out.
At the time i was just fresh out of a divorce and in a suicidal state, so I was... not fit for doing content, and yet hive helped me a lot to patch myself up, to discover what kind of content I liked to both read and make, and to enjoy while doing it, for me hive is like a special place that makes me feel like I can keep moving forward.
It is hive where I posted every month of my daughter pregnancy, her every growing phase and where I posts my unsolicited opinions on movies, films, my cat, fatherhood, and about how to handle chronic depression and stuff like that, I also discovered that I loved to write short stories, at the beginning I went with "based on real life", cases or people I knew, reimagined context, then I went batshit crazy and started with fantasy a lot, In fact that is one of the reasons I wanted to dive into animerealm, but the lack of engagement, that 0 comments on the posts, each time I checked an eye on the community, that... that one hurts, So Instead of feeding my insecurity and fear of being ignored I posts on the places were I already got answers and comments, in fact I stopped posting about my cat at all because no one ever commented on it... the worse part was that they were heavily rewarded, Cleopatra my empress is one hell of a cute cat, so people voted it a lot... But I just don't feel right when I get no engagement at all.
I consider that if they were begging in hive and at some point they sacrifice votes in exchanges of engagement, then they are to be called hivers, or maybe I'm just some insecure guy that still likes a comment more than a 4$ vote, who knows, not me xD
There are two extremes on Hive, those that do little engagement but get rewarded high are either doing some service that is useful to the blockchain or just have loaded friends on the platform, and the other side of the spectrum where people with less actually know how to play the social game and strive to connect with others.
Those in the middle that make up the majority take a dip on all areas without doing anything meaningful. They quit, or stay long without adapting and convinced that the system is rigged against them, but my truth is that if you engage with the community and give it some value for your time, the community will pay you back. For those that don't know this social economy, they post and go expecting the attention gets handed down on them unconditionally. The most common predictor of success for those that don't have a lot of stake is just being a team playing chatterbox people would want to be conversing with.
There's nothing wrong with wanting those, it's what majority want but probably too hesitant to admit. And this is a market opportunity to spread one's influence because you know what you want and you're not alone in the platform.
Yet we see the platform slowly stall and decay, haven't you noticed? Hive relation with bitcoin is increasingly more and more balanced in favor of Bitcoin, and its price have dropped to previously established balances, meaning that some day, Hive as a platform might not be able to support itself and it might slowly die, this gives me the chills to the point of nonsense, because I believe on the hive project quite a lot as it helped me cope with my personal shit in ways anything else would never have...
But I have to admit most want money, it is how it works and people don't usually say it, Hive ironically is my main support in economy income, to the point of doing a power down just to save money to pay my Italian citizenship costs, and some debts that my salary just dint help me cut.
I think you are right about
Those in the middle that make up the majority take a dip on all areas without doing anything meaningfulMaybe I am in that area, doing nothing, using my time for nothing... I never thought about it...Most content on hive is made by users that post and go, in fact for every 100 comments i make, I get about 7 replys and 8 comments on my posts... I usually comment others so they check my latest post and we could both say our thoughts on each other posts, but such is hive... such is life.
This.
Though you may not appreciate the value in doing the routine because the benefits come in drops to a large bucket, but this is how it works. I'm not going to act like I achieved whatever success I had in connecting with people here was due to luck. There was a point when I had a lot of time to do Hive stuff and chatted away with more people daily and this kept on for years. Most can't do that commitment because of instant gratification.
Then some would ask me in private how to get consistent votes from more people and I just say keep commenting and connecting, people will notice and if they like you enough they vote. It's no joke that even if this is the right answer and people know, they still don't want to do it because there's no large incentive to expose yourself to rejection from strangers. You're doing the right moves in the right direction, this just takes a lot of time.
It has taken me 2 years of posting at least 3 times per week to reach level 71, yet my total amount of comments is over 11k and that is no exaggeration, it takes time, a lot of time, like all good things does.
Connecting with others is something that is slowly build and mostly out of good will, opening up to internet strangers is hard, but being ignored is even harder for me, I just try not to think about it, but having a 0 comments post feels weird, in fact, once a long time ago my most highly valued post voted by ranchorelaxo and a bunch of trails was quite literally pay out with a SINGLE comment, my most valued post, was the most impersonal and indifferent one I ever made, in fact it became a joke for me and my fiancée, we had months making out of that post rewards, because I made it like in 3 hours and most of my post take me an entire day of work to do so... I literally placed almost no effort on it, and it felt so undeserving to the point of taking it like a joke.
Anyway, Just saying that out loud, so I can finally get it out of my chest, it happened on movies n tv shows, one of my most beloved posting places, and Its something I fear each time I post in there, that it ends up being totally ignored for people, and voted by bots...
I think it depends on the type of audience you are trying to court. I do a little prospecting when I was a little more active on Hive back then. If I see a user with low engagement levels, I move away. I may try to make contact here but then forget about it and move on. You don't have to waste time on people without any remote interest in reacting beyond post and go, they waste your time.
I look for active authors that have a busy comment section and figure out their interests. The more like minded and active, the more likely they'll respond. Note, my only objective is to raise my chances that they respond back. Once they do, I test the waters if there's some connection to be made and if it's a positive experience, I'd follow up some other time. Always checking my feed, trying to catch up and prospecting more people. I also check out their feeds on who they follow because everything is peer reviewed, people with like minded interests will gravitate towards one another so if you see someone commenting a lot, expect they also found other people who also comment a lot in their social circle and you access their network too.
Majority don't know how to tactically use their time engaging, most of it is spent on useless conversations that don't mean anything and you end up losing time without changing anything.
Heck the best tactic/piece of advice I have ever read in hive and In social navigation, I have never actually reviewed who I try to engage with, and now you say it, it makes so much sense, Because that is how social rings work in group theory, yet most of the time people tent to gravitate not in the charge of the subjects but on their perspective on it, that means that you are likely to get into your own perspective and confirmation bias circles, something that in a small place like hive is not so easy to find but in widespread social media it should be super easy to find...
This could be dangerous to repeat on a loop endlessly because it might end up causing harm to your own goals of meeting people, yet at least is ACTIVE people on hive, and that is something alright, we have like 1500 active poster daily, and it should limit stuff a bit, yet applying this could save me time, ironically for me reading and commenting 80 posts is an easy thing, maybe I should try your method so I atleast get a more positive and natural engagement, besides I already engage people I know a lot, so why not engage with them even more :)
Just finished reading the entire post. I was absent from Hive for around 1+ year due to army service and now i am back i am trying to catch up on everything, see what i missed, what's new, how the communities i like are etc etc. (If i missed anything too important let me know :P)
On a more serious note though, i felt quite sad reading the post. I could tell @dlstudios had not that much time to spend/invest in that community but the guy tried... a lot and i believe he added quite the value! As one of the guys that made a lot of anime reviews before even Hive existed, backed in Steemit days, where you would literally see extremely limited anime content, for some weeks my anime posts were the only ones (excluding the "let me just upload a random anime photo from the web and wait for money :P" kind of thing) i kind feel sad. I believe that this niche has so many things to offer and it's quite easier to attract people that are familiar with cryptos at all but love anime/manga.
I had some more generic ideas for the future of the community and its next level but i think that a conversation at a very very later stage. For the time being due to work and stuff, my time is limited at 1-2 hours per day at best, some days i may not be active at all, some other days i may be active for 2-4 hours. Thus, i will try to continue posting some of my reviews here and upvoting/commenting on decent posts!
Also, since 2 months passed since the post, did anything change? any relevant update on the progress of the community or any upcoming plans?
Finally, how are you @adamada? I still remember some of your comments on my posts cause they reminded mine :P Long-ass meaningful comments that could create a whole conversation!
Struggling to get on Hive breaking from irl obligations but still here and out. Good to see you again, I really did wondered why you weren't posting anymore (not that I kept close tabs on your blogs). It's more along the lines of being familiar with some names on my feed or occasionally seeing familiar names posting on communities and then they suddenly don't appear anymore. I do recall you did talked about military service but damn, has 1 year already passed? you missed the exciting times on crypto and Hive bruh. you need a lot of catching up to do.
Good to see you active again, would like to get more activity on the community but like dlstudios, I'm barely getting by with my battles.
I totally get you! I will try for now to write an anime-related post 1-3 days per week and at the same time curate as much as i can during these days. If you also need help with anything relevant or you have any idea that you wanna talk about and need help let me know. I can't guarantee that i will be able to help due to my limited time these days, but i will try my best!
Well just start by posting on the community about anime related stuff, that's already a big help. It's not that no one shows interest in the subject, but if you were take into account how much they could earn posting another topic on another community for their time, it makes sense Anime Realm isn't the right one. I think it's for the best despite the lack of engagement, you wouldn't want to build on users that go where the money is because once the well dries up, they leave and that's just how much community spirit you really had from the start.
Thanks, to be honest I just joined hive this week and I first searched for anime in the list of communities. I saw this and checked, I was pretty bummed when i saw it was dead. I plan to be an active part of this community, so wait for my posts.
Looking forward to those posts. I don't really expect much after the announcement since things just pick up slow when it comes to asking for community support, you need more people posting to get it active instead of just a few accounts so people that used to be active on the page may not be coming back anytime soon.
Unsolicited advice: given that you've joined Hive recently, I noticed that you upvote your own comment. It's not a hard rule to not do but it's generally frowned upon given how there is a monetary equivalent to the votes we cast. I don't find this a big issue for new users but if this habit grows when their staked grows bigger, some curators may not be keen on supporting them further. But this is just my unsolicited advice.
This is a good niche that deserves much more activity. The truth is that I am a fan of anime and if I remember correctly I have posted here two or three times. I hope that with these changes and those to come, the community will grow more because I think it is really worth having this space to share our anime content.
I wish the best for the future of this community. 😁
Greetings!
I hope to see some of those anime posts from you :>
Sounds like you're going to be an even busier little bee than usual.
I like doing a lot of things and accomplishing a lot of things. I know I'll be annoyed taking this on in the future but some stuff I care about seeing on the platform need to be built. Hopefully some more individuals can get behind the project. Aye, I'm dumb struggling and fueled by passion that itches, rebel with me.
Hello there, I saw this community a while ago and I was really surprised that it was pretty much dead! I'm happy to hear the news that there is going to be some movement in the future around here! I really like anime and I would like to connect with people who share the same passion both for anime and Hive! So I'm waiting for the invitation for the discord server! Also, I would like to help the cause so if you are going to need any help in the future don't hesitate! Otakus should rise again in Hive! 😂
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Looking forward to your posts :>
I don't expect any dramatic spike in activity but it's nice if it picks up momentum. There's just some stuff that can only happen when there's more people working on the community than just a handful of accounts posting. Some gradual changes are planned and just taking this community stuff one step at a time.
For me as an anime fan this community is necessary. I'm glad its there on hive. Maybe there is not many posts, but when they are being made they are really entertaining.
The word anime alone made me follow this community..hope to see more from this community.
Noice, post ka bruh. Yung link sa Hiveph server na share ko dati, hinihintay ko parin pag bisita mo dun sa server.
I hope with this rebranding, this community will come to life again.
Anime is really something most people like to talk about but sadly, this community needs to be revived.
Let’s go, anime lovers!
Time to wake this community!
Post ka ng cosplay mo dali.
Ay wag yung akin. Joiners muna ako cosplay dito then post ko 😂
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I don't understand why memes need to be Hive bound. Shouldn't this be Anime-Story wise context?
Yes we write on hive but the context is anime, not hive.
That rule is experimental, if there is an attached paragraph that begs a discussions from the meme, I can give it a pass because the meme is just a tool extending the content further. But by default, I am assuming some anime enthusiasts on Hive will attempt the lazy route and repost dank memes they see on other sites just cause it's allowed here. And even if it's an original meme, it's hard to make a case that a meme is "original" and I don't find that worth rewarding at all.
However, tailoring the meme into something Hive folks would recognize meant an extra layer of thought was made and it's specifically meant for this community than a general meme you can find for free somewhere else. It's the monetary consequence that adds to the tricky part in moderating this type of content. Why should content that's inherently low production in value (most of the time), inherently lacks novelty, and serve as a hit or miss jest be rewarded?
Because they are funny. I think you have a meme anti-bias here.
Just because a joke is short doesn't mean it's not funny.
For people following a series, memes are enjoyable and sometimes useful. Here is an example:
This made me give it a second try to the latest Date A Live season regardless of how shitty was the previous one. I dropped this anime after the second episode, but I picked back up, thanks to that meme. And yeah it has nothing to do with Hive.
I don't have any problems with memes being shared. It's the monetary consequences from sharing that bugs me as these can be used as a front to just milk some votes. If you think they need to be rewarded, there's always the tipping feature. I'll just state in the rules that meme posts be set to burn rewards instead of decline rewards so that curators can still get curation rewards but the author who shared the post doesn't.
I thought that this community would be one of the liveliest community since anime is a popular topic everywhere, but I'm even more surprised that this community doesn't have much interactions. With this rebranding that you're aiming to, I'm rooting for your success in reviving this community back to life. I'll also try to post if I can find some anime that's worth talking about.
Does this community have any discord?
I have a discord for it but didn't bother sharing it since I'm too preoccupied with other things to run it at the moment.