response from that podcast. And then also want to turn to what your take is on DeFi. Like what is the value proposition of DeFi? What does DeFi mean to you? And how do you kind of fit it as a model into your head? Yeah, I think that there was a positive response among, there was no negative response. There was a positive response, I think among people who primarily weren't familiar or weren't particularly, they might have been familiar. I mean, in a lot of cases, people that own Ethereum and might own some of these different ERC-20 tokens, like SNX, for example, they don't actually understand the underlying technology or they understand the business models or how they work. So I think in those cases, they were very happy and excited that I covered it. You know, when I wrote my, the intro that I did for that show was not my first intro. My first intro was actually pretty negative. But I felt like after I wrote it, I was like, well, this is kind of shitty. It doesn't, because I felt like (69/97)
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