wLEO Bailout Received.

in LeoFinance3 years ago

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So I got around 11.2 ETH and 33k LEO back from the wLEO hack. No small chunk of change indeed. You know, I almost feel bad about it. To know the risks and state them multiple times; to accept the risks; have all my money stolen, but then get bailed out anyway? Pretty weird scenario.

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Silver Lining

Clearly, this hack was not a complete loss. @khaleelkazi has bought a lot of good faith with this bailout. Logic would dictate that with this many tokens being refunded, surely many would exit as the result of such a devastating attack. In reality, we see the opposite happening.

@onealfa and a few other bullish whales have flipped the script and capitalized on this unfortunate incident as a supreme buying opportunity. In my opinion, we should have crashed to around 0.35 (like we did) and stayed there. Instead we made an instant recovery. There seems to be a huge invisible buy wall at the 1:1 ratio to Hive.

Not only is selling here a bad idea because of this invisible buy wall, it also centralizes the network pretty bad.

https://leodex.io/richlist/LEO
I never thought I'd see a single account with more coins than @noleoforyou (our downvoting account). Now there are four, and @onealfa has significantly more stake than even @null does. He owns more than the entire network has even burned. Pretty crazy. He's gone full "beastmode" as he powers up to 666,666.666 stake.

With 1:1 seemingly being the new low-end baseline, it feels like we're targeting at least another 10x before the next Bitcoin bubble ends. It could even get crazy and spike x100-x1000 over the next year. Anything is possible in crypto with these micro caps. Hive could do the same. I fully believe we are approaching the good ol' days of 2017 when bloggers were earning a completely unsustainable amount of money (thousands of dollars PER POST). The trick is to take gainz and maintain a balanced position in the event of the inevitable dump and subsequent bear market.

Truly I wanted to sell a lot of this LEO and get my Bitcoin reserves back, but like everyone else in the LEO community, I'm pretty committed at this point and I'm not about to dump into a centralizing buy wall controlled by the whims of a handful of bulls. Now is the best time to be risking a lot on smaller market caps anyway. I can rebalance once Bitcoin is trading higher than $100k. As it stands now even Bitcoin is at the absolute baseline and can really only go up from here considering everything that's going on.

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2020 Bitcoin Doubling Curve

JanFebMarAprilMayJune
$6933$7467$8000$8533$9067$9600
JulyAugSeptOctNovDec
$10133$10667$11200$11733$12267$12800

In just a few months I'll have to do the napkin math to calculate the month to month doubling curve baseline for 2021. It will double from $12800 to $25600. $1066.66 per month. However, as we've seen in the past, the fourth year of the halving cycle breaks all the rules as the price skyrockets x10 or more above the curve only to return to the curve a year later.

This is why I predict a price of Bitcoin at $280,000 in Q4 2021 with a crash down to $56k in Q1 2023. Funny how $56k is still more than x4 from where we are today. The world is going to go completely insane if this pattern actually repeats once again. As corporations start to pad the balance sheets and even Paypal is coming around... I have to assume it's actually going to happen. Expect even more bullish developments to pop their heads up over the next 6 months.

I've been predicting this for over a year now, but I still think there's a good chance the next mega bull run will end with a major ETF being approved, just like the last one was ended with CME futures hitting the market. Don't be surprised if the top blows off this volcano in the weeks to follow such a "bullish" announcement. Get ready for those sob stories of those who put their house up for collateral and bought a single Bitcoin for $250k... lol. So bad. How many more times will Bitcoin be declared dead? Time will tell.

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Printing money only goes so far.

We all know that at a certain point the chickens come home to roost. The debt-addict of this legacy economy is going to overdose sooner or later. The ones who created the problem will not be the ones who pay the price for their negligence and greed. Count on it.

Powered up

Seeing as I'm not selling anytime soon apparently, having that many liquid coins makes me nervous. I've powered up most of the bailout, just like many others. 30k tokens into my previous 40k. Now I have 70k stake with an 11 LEO upvote... pretty good.

Window shopping.

At current value, my upvote is already like $1.70 a pop; $17 a day. Let me tell you... that's pretty crazy from my point of view. What happens if we x10 again? $170? x100? $1700. That's not even taking into consideration as to what Hive does, in which I have even more stake than LEO. Again, the days of $1000 blog posts could be on our doorstep before you know it. How many are actually ready for that?

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I've already told several people they need to prepare for the bull market. Anyone who thinks that no preparations need to be made to make money (instead of lose it while hodling) is not familiar with emotional tilt. The mistakes you make while riding high on a trump are just as financially devastating as the ones we make when we are in the hole and doubling down to get out of it. Easy come, easy go.

Hard go.

Don't throw away money just because you have a lot of it.
Just sayin.

Conclusion

If you're like me and you empathize with @khaleelkazi for taking such a big hit making all the wLEO investors whole again, what should you do? The only thing you can do. Try to bring as much value to this network as you can. That could be buying more LEO, designing an app, or even just blogging it up depending on your skillset. Everyone has their part to play.

Personally I'd like to create a Fantasy Bitcoin League for LEO that allows users to trade Bitcoin with fake money but create betting pools that payout LEO depending on who traded the best over certain periods of time. Here's to hoping I find the time, funding, and willpower to accomplish such a venture.

It should be obvious by now that LEO whales hold strong no matter what happens. This is a community of uber-bullish holders. Let's keep it that way.

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I must say, the way the LEO team handled this was completely a class act. If this doesn't give an investor even more confidence in LEO, I don't know what does? No matter if it's a person, or venture, we will all suffer hard times. It's in the hard times you see a true character--- LEO is shinning imho!

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the days of $1000 blog posts could be on our doorstep before you know it

Please, it has been way to long since my last $1000 blog post.

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Reminds me of the days of $14 sbd where I made $40k in one week from 2 shitposts per day... lmao, too bad I threw it all back at steem later on but too early still.

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So weird.

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Buy a stock the way you would buy a house. Understand and like it such that you’d be content to own it in the absence of any market.

—WARREN BUFFETT

I also received a refund of $LEO and $ETH. I can not thank @leofinance (and @khaleelkazi in particular) enough. Has there been anything similar that has taken place in the larger crypto-space? I don't believe so.

What is absolutely amazing is how many folks came to the aid of @leofinance to discover what exactly transpired and how to ensure it never happens again. This type of behavior demonstrates the solidarity and character of many people involved in the growth of the HIVE Blockchain Network. I would list those folks here, but their are some that wish to remain anonymous so I will honor their selflessness.

Seeing as I'm not selling anytime soon apparently, having that many liquid coins makes me nervous.

I like HIVE and, more recently, LEO Finance. The vision of both are commensurate with my personal value set. I have, in the past, tried the trading thing. That is not investing. My current liquidation of a portion of my HIVE stake and @splinterlands non-fungible tokens (NFTs) is in order to invest in LEO (HODL).

Personally I'd like to create a Fantasy Bitcoin League for LEO that allows users to trade Bitcoin with fake money but create betting pools that payout LEO depending on who traded the best over certain periods of time.

Now that the @lucksacks poker site (LUCKSACKS.COM {a HIVE Faucet site}) is up and running again, it is my plan to host a LEO Finance Thanksgiving Poker Tournament on the site. I am currently working with the folks on the particulars.

International Business Machines (IBM) is considered the most ethical of all companies in the business world. I would propose that the actions of LEO Finance has earned them the same honor among crypto-centric institutions. 🏆

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Poker is definitely going to take off again once someone creates a free version that can't be regulated. I'll make so much money when that happens lol. I could already make a decent wage racing the rake... Can basically double that wage without having the race a centralized rake going to the house.

International Business Machines (IBM) is considered the most ethical of all companies in the business world. I would propose that the actions of LEO Finance has earned them the same honor among crypto-centric institutions. 🏆

From what I've seen I'd say I agree with thie. @leofinance team is a total gem in the crypto markets.

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Good to see the team and public spirit. If we contribute a little it can make difference in longterm. What my first boss used to say, if we do 1% more daily it is (1.01)^365 = 37.78. That's like37 times growth with consistency. We just need to do it over and again and again.

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Again, the days of $1000 blog posts could be on our doorstep before you know it. How many are actually ready for that?

Don’t throw me in that briar patch!

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This is why I predict a price of Bitcoin at $280,000 in Q4 2021

Man I thought I was super bullish with my post yesterday. Hope I was wrong and it's your scenario that plays out ultimately.

the days of $1000 blog posts could be on our doorstep before you know it

I haven't made $1000 in my entire career as a blogger.

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Ha... I know right?

I wouldn't have believed it either if I didn't see it with my own 2 eyes.

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More we stake ,it will decrease "Leo Vote value" per Leo. so I think when Leo is 100x then your same stake will not be able to give 11 leo upvote, but still it will be considerable.

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I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're making a lot of assumptions with this statement:

  1. The only way we could go x100 is if more people powered up.
  2. Our inflation rate is constant.

As we saw with the wLEO Uniswap pool, the value of LEO went up even as users were powering down their coins. Imagine having LEO listings on dozens of exchanges. There's a pretty good chance more coins get powered down over the coming years considering the huge percentage that is already powered up. On top of this, one of the biggest reasons my upvote is so big is that there is still a lot of powered up stake out there that doesn't even use their upvotes. For every account that doesn't drain the reward pool it makes everyone else's vote more powerful.

There's also the weird issue of inflation creating inflation. Every token that gets created adds to the total amount of coins, and the reward pool is funded by a percentage of those coins that are constantly increasing. We counterbalance this aspect by lowering our inflation every so often just like Hive. However, we could find ourselves in a position where the smartest play is to actually keep inflation static or even increase it from where it currently is given certain circumstances.

In all likelihood though... yes, an x100 LEO explosion would give x100 times the incentive to leech the reward pool, lowering the weight of my vote and fanning it out to the accounts that weren't allocating it before then.

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It is always nice to read your thoughts.
I want to say that in our journey of 100X we will have on boarded a lot of user and mined a lot of Leo. So current supply < less than future supply.

Ahh! I completely forgot about inactive account that are holding Leo or accounts not making use of their LP.

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Fun times ahead indeed. We've weathered the bear and now the bull is at hand. The next 12-14 months are going to be life changing for many people on here. :)

Let’s hope your right regarding Bitcoin. It just seems like 2021 is setting up for some big runs in crypto. Not to mention the legacy system looks like a sinking Titanic.

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Great to see this solved and things to get back to normal. And I think that the negative effect of the refunds over the LEO economics considering that only 5% will be minted on top compared to more than 30% gains from the introduction of linear curation is pretty small.

Probably everybody will learn from this experience and we'll see wLEO launch again, be pegged to Ethereum and reach new highs!

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I have to give khal mad props for this dude has some balls on him! Hopefully it’s all replayed back to him as the network expands and proves on the potential many of the stake holders feel it can provide

Still got a long way to catch up to @onealpha only 100x my stake to go

What happens if we x10 again? $170? x100? $1700.

Shit.... it's time to start sucking up....(do you have 'how to do' links?)

  1. Step one: Pray to RNJesus.
  2. Step two: Wait.

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...now I'll wait....

lol. Would ya look at that.

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To know the risks and state them multiple times; to accept the risks; have all my money stolen, but then get bailed out anyway?

You are now a bank!! :D

Except they don't have their money stolen.

So that's what they meant by:

Be your own bank.

The bitcoin train is moving
leofinance and hive are onboard.
Take your seat folks!

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Didn't @onealfa and maybe @nealmcspadden and possibly a few others get VERY LUCKY with the time of their withdrawal?

There was a small window of time in which you could have swapped your fake WLEO for real LEO, I think that may have been a thing too.

I don't know if they did, they may have just put in a huge amount or swapped for ETH

But I think there was a window when it was possible to get VERY LUCKY with converting that fake money into real money.

I dont' know, maybe it was a thing, maybe not! Opportunity of a lifetime if you ask me!

It'll be on the chains of course, it'd be interesting to run a script to investigate.

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I was having a chat with a HIVE user the other day, about LEO and he wanted a way to get into LEO. Even though the recent HACK really got LEO quite bad but as expected KHAL made a strong recovery. I am not really surprised about the fact of the strong and dedicated whales and investors are this much bullish about LEO. As it was and is one of the pillar which is helping LEO to reach to the peak.
I just wish that HIVE had this much amount of dedication and a solid plan to move forward!

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If you're like me and you empathize with @khaleelkazi for taking such a big hit making all the wLEO investors whole again, what should you do? The only thing you can do. Try to bring as much value to this network as you can. That could be buying more LEO, designing an app, or even just blogging it up depending on your skillset. Everyone has their part to play.

I also think that the times ahead are good for LEO, if I had the capital to invest in the @LeoFinance community I would do it without looking back. For now I'll keep creating content and firing up my earned LEO.

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Buying LEO and locking it up needs to be the primary message. Aren’t we at less than 1.5 million LEO circulating? Or something around that number? It really does not take a lot of economic energy to get the message out to buy up these tokens and lock them up. When tokens are locked, and unable to sell, price skyrockets.

Removing supply from the sell side of the bid and ask is the best way to get to $5+

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I also got 1 Eth back and I’m going to reinvest in Leo in various ways with my time and attention.

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It was a brilliant recovery and it only proves how much @leofinance cares about the project! Powering up is the most reasonable thing to do with your LEO, in my opinion.

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I agree that the way Khal and crew handled this WLEO hack was not only classy, but instructive for others who may find themselves in this situation. I for one am very impressed with both the leadership and the community. People know a leader when they see one, and they line up behind them.

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