If you don't see value in my long term dedication to HIVE or don't understand how community driven Twitter shilling bring Hive Network growth, I only have 8 days to try to convince you.
How do you plan to measure the success of your Twitter marketing if in case your proposal gets funded? What are the metrics and on whose standard should we benchmark your campaign? How will you differentiate your marketing campaign over those normal users who share their thoughts and ideas about Hive and even posh their Hive links? What makes your Twitter campaign special that the community should pay you 200 HBD/day for your shilling efforts? Shouldn't others receive too for shilling Hive on Twitter?
Where's the link of your proposal so that we can examine it? What's the purpose of this post? To gain attention? To give an ultimatum? Could you elaborate on how Hive will get back the 200 HBD/day that you requested? How will you convince a potential investor? Beg them? Why would they care about you and your token over hundreds of others?
These are just some of the questions that came to me after reading this post. I have a couple more, but I got tired of typing.
Less than a month after the above was posted, you were gone. There are a myriad of reasons I won't vote for your proposal, but this is the icing on the proverbial cake. I wish you well wherever your journey takes you next.
DHF proposals aren't that "visible" to the ordinary members and people don't understand how powerful tools are they... I have to admit that I don't visit often the proposals page, but I should... Also, your calling out "ordinary" people to start HIVE witness nodes, and creating these proposals are very important!
I know that a lot of people think that HIVE is driven by a couple of people who decides about everything, but the power should be in every person on the chain... And even if we think that it is like that, only WE can change that by "spreading" the wealth, our votes to different people, different proposals, etc...
You are doing a tremendous job on Twitter and I hope that your proposal will get funded as it is important to keep the "presence of Hive" around mainstream media... Until we become enough big that they need us...
Your calling out "ordinary" people to start HIVE witness nodes, and creating these proposals are very important!
Community leaders getting involved with governance is extremely important so that we can break the HIVE elite party. They live in their own bubble disconnected from our own community and disconnected from wider crypto community.
Elite thinks that DHF was only theirs.
I know that a lot of people think that HIVE is driven by a couple of people who decides about everything.
People who kissed Ned Scott arse got rich or made a living at our community's expenses with steem. Now everyone is playing their politics to please blocktrades.
It's time to fight for decentralised HIVE network and keep fighting until the end.
Any special reason for giving up? Is it lack of support? I really appreciate what you have been trying to do, but we all have our limits. I think we have to focus efforts where they do the most good. I think it can be hard to get heard on Twitter above all the noise.
Wishing you all the best with whatever you choose to do.
To fully concentrate on marketing and promoting Hive on Twitter requires a lot of time dedicated to it. Consistently marketing Hive of Twitter will absolutely leave him with no time to create Hive content.
And this is another reason why he has made a DHF proposal requesting for funds to incentivize those who sacrifices there time to promote/market Hive on Twitter. Because when one begins to consistently market/promote Hive on Twitter he/she will be left with little or no time to create Hive contents. And trust me, a lot would rather choose to create Hive content so they can earn rather than burning out their time promoting Hive on Twitter. But when there's incentives to compensate their effort, I believe they won't really care much sacrificing their time dedicated for content creation to promote Hive on Twitter.
Nathanmars may not care much about earning from Hive, but he cares a lot more about the community members such as I and many others who depends on our Hive earning to make a living. If he will be taking community members time by requesting them to promote/market Hive on Twitter consistently, then he needs a way to compensate community members for their time.
It's time for HIVE elite party members to understand that my leadership is bringing more people in our community together and attracting more people to HIVE.
Top 20 witnesses haven't changed and the people who're benefiting from DHF funding are the same people.
There is wide cap between our HIVE elites and our global HIVE community.
There is even more wider cap between HIVE community and wider crypto community. People who talk shill HIVE inside our hive network does very little or no shilling HIVE on Twitter.
CZ and Charles Hoskinson spends most of their energy on Twitter for reason.
I don't personally see a lot of value in "shilling" hive that much on Twitter. I love Nathan and it hurts to say this, but the way he's going on about it, along with Hiro, looks like they're trying to sell snake-oil to people on Hive. I am sure he's doing this for all the best intentions and I'm sure others have told him before what I'm writing now, but the amount of energy he's putting into it is too much. I've had many users, both non-hive and semi-hive invested ones from other chains ask me about the spam and who Nathan is. I know there's been times he's had an impact, the Kim dot com tweet recently was surely because of him, but in general it might be doing more damage to Hive than good.
The worst part is that both him and all of us know the advantages to Hive and that this is the real deal compared to 99.9% of shitcoins and centralized platforms out there so it's really sad that a lot of his actions may have negative consequences to Hive's image and what it is.
I hope he might reconsider doing something else or improving the way he runs his twitter activity to be less spammy but more efficient. Other than that I'd rather see a professional marketing campaign being funded, maybe even Twitter ads?
Alright Acid. I totally can relate to your point of view and I think you might be just right. I hope Nathan do look into it now. I believe this are the kind of valuable feedback he needs to properly structure his plans for marketing Hive.
Absolutely 😀... I had a rethink about that as opened my Twitter App few minutes ago.
I'll try to speak with Nathan one on one. I love his vision for Hive and I'd really love to see him succeed. The whole marketing stuff should get more professional soon after some restrategizing.
The number of iterations leads to a quality product.
I figured out with our HIVE Twitter shilling never had true leader after theycallmedan's account get suspended and never had any real target. Now with my 3rd proposal, I'm taking responsibility and accountability to lead and bring actual results.
I don't believe in Twitter adds nor third party agencies promoting decentralised protocol HIVE. If HIVE was a shitcoin then we need it. Community is our greatest asset and also I realised that I'm one of the great community leader who try to empower decentralisation and growth/sustainability.
I lacked clarity with what problem I can solve for our HIVE until recently because I was always trying to find out the best way to help our community with my own talent/skills.
With my last two DHF proposal, I learned that HIVE Twitter shilling needs true leader and came forward put this proposal.
Also there is a huge different Binance account shilling BNB and CZ shilling BNB on Twitter. People connect with people not with brand nor decentralisation.
Hello @nathanmars,
What we see and what others see is not always the same thing .
I see many talk about long term investment and then get disappointed when it does not pay off in six months/ year or whatever time limit they put on it.
I look at the price of Hive, but I take no comfort in the price being up or down.
The reason I believe in hive is the same as it has always been and that is in the apps being built on it , the fast and free transactions and most importantly the community.
Other blockchains want what we have and put us down because they want their blockchain to be the main blockchain.
Small investors and even big ones are only interested in returns . At the moment they can get easy returns from other crypto’s ( just look at DOGE, it is a shit coin and because Elon Musk is interested in it others are also) .
This pump and dump thing they are running on DOGE will hurt a lot of people and they won’t care as long as they make money . And DOGE will crash once it it all said and done. ( I could be wrong but that is my opinion on the matter).
A long story short a lot of us believe in hive and we also believe in the great work you are doing . Don’t stop . Fail pick yourself up and fail again until the job is done.
I have no interest in leaving hive. If you need help just ask you know where I am.
Have an awesome brother.
Hola @nathanmars, yo soy relativamente nueva en esta plataforma y me encuentro en este mar de cosas que me faltan por conocer, pero necesito decirte que eres un personaje clave en este proceso, cuando uno comienza a leer comentarios y publicaciones, y a pareces tu nombre, uno sabe que es por algo… y algo bueno... Creo que tu participación le da un valor especial a esta comunidad porque al igual que otros integrantes creen y apuestan con el corazón en el crecimiento orgánico de esta plataforma.
Tu participación en Tuitter es maravillosa, creo fuiste una de las primeras personas que seguí porque vi tu dinamismo y entusiasmo para hacer visible a HIVE de una manera interactiva.
Sigue adelante que segura estoy llegarás muy lejos…
Saludos y bendiciones.
Hi @nathanmars, I am relatively new to this platform and I find myself in this sea of things that I have yet to know, but I need to tell you that you are a key character in this process, when one begins to read comments and publications, and your name appears, one knows it is for something ... and something good .... I think your participation gives a special value to this community because like other members believe and bet with the heart in the organic growth of this platform.
Your participation in Twitter is wonderful, I think you were one of the first people I followed because I saw your dynamism and enthusiasm to make HIVE visible in an interactive way.
I am sure that you will not give up even if you don't get the desired support for the Hive promotion proposal. Sometimes things just don't go the way we expect but that does not mean you are doing things wrong. A right could be later same efforts can make things different that time.
I am with you and hope that you will here as well @nathanmars
On whom does what you do depend on? 🤔
On what other people think? Now I'm the one who doesn't understand.....
If you believe in Hive act for Hive.... There are many here who are and don't even believe in Hive..... Are you going to demobilize for them? It doesn't seem right to me. Others cannot determine your actions.
I don't know... That's what I think
Hey Nathan. Let's talk soon. My opinion is that it 18M HP is a lot. From the very beginning I just couldn't imagine that much HP voting. I wouldn't even consider this as a loss if you don't get the votes for your proposal.
Asked 10 HBD with my first personal proposal, asked 30 HBD to decentralised HIVE twitter shilling. This is our (not mine) third proposal where I learned twitter shilling needs leadership and results.
To be honest, I feel like if you're not part of one & only elite party in HIVE, they will make you feel like you're not worth it. Socialism for elites and capitalism for every other stakeholders.
Nooo! I totally appreciate the many times you have helped me and how encouraging you are on Twitter but I totally understand too that sometimes we have to do what we feel is best. Wishing you nothing but luck in any endeavor you take over!
@nathanmars Did you ever have any idea to advertise hive on tiktok and snack? I am just saying, I see tweets like this and that was also partly the reason why doge is what is now. I bought some when jackpaulers mentioned it on tiktok bought cheap and hold my bags. Should really considering doing tiktok.
Hello Derangedvisions, I can certainly assure you that Nathan isn't mad about anything. If you don't mind, you can refer to my reply to Steevc comment above.
I can't speak for others, but I will be very upset if HIVE loses a user like you. I ask you not to make drastic decisions, no matter what happens in 8 days.
I guess I'm just kinda lost, this might all be over my head. I'm kinda new around here but really appreciate that you're out there chanting HIVE every day.
How do you plan to measure the success of your Twitter marketing if in case your proposal gets funded? What are the metrics and on whose standard should we benchmark your campaign? How will you differentiate your marketing campaign over those normal users who share their thoughts and ideas about Hive and even posh their Hive links? What makes your Twitter campaign special that the community should pay you 200 HBD/day for your shilling efforts? Shouldn't others receive too for shilling Hive on Twitter?
Where's the link of your proposal so that we can examine it? What's the purpose of this post? To gain attention? To give an ultimatum? Could you elaborate on how Hive will get back the 200 HBD/day that you requested? How will you convince a potential investor? Beg them? Why would they care about you and your token over hundreds of others?
These are just some of the questions that came to me after reading this post. I have a couple more, but I got tired of typing.
I just upvoted your proposal. Good luck!
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I fucking need Good luck.
It's time.
Thanks a million.
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Déjà vu...
Less than a month after the above was posted, you were gone. There are a myriad of reasons I won't vote for your proposal, but this is the icing on the proverbial cake. I wish you well wherever your journey takes you next.
Maybe we all need to do some pushups to keep him here???
Vision of Seven77 Twitter campaign was to bring investors to steem.
DHF proposals aren't that "visible" to the ordinary members and people don't understand how powerful tools are they... I have to admit that I don't visit often the proposals page, but I should... Also, your calling out "ordinary" people to start HIVE witness nodes, and creating these proposals are very important!
I know that a lot of people think that HIVE is driven by a couple of people who decides about everything, but the power should be in every person on the chain... And even if we think that it is like that, only WE can change that by "spreading" the wealth, our votes to different people, different proposals, etc...
You are doing a tremendous job on Twitter and I hope that your proposal will get funded as it is important to keep the "presence of Hive" around mainstream media... Until we become enough big that they need us...
Wish you the best!
Community leaders getting involved with governance is extremely important so that we can break the HIVE elite party. They live in their own bubble disconnected from our own community and disconnected from wider crypto community.
Elite thinks that DHF was only theirs.
People who kissed Ned Scott arse got rich or made a living at our community's expenses with steem. Now everyone is playing their politics to please blocktrades.
It's time to fight for decentralised HIVE network and keep fighting until the end.
Any special reason for giving up? Is it lack of support? I really appreciate what you have been trying to do, but we all have our limits. I think we have to focus efforts where they do the most good. I think it can be hard to get heard on Twitter above all the noise.
Wishing you all the best with whatever you choose to do.
!BEER
No! Nathanmars isn't giving up.
To fully concentrate on marketing and promoting Hive on Twitter requires a lot of time dedicated to it. Consistently marketing Hive of Twitter will absolutely leave him with no time to create Hive content.
And this is another reason why he has made a DHF proposal requesting for funds to incentivize those who sacrifices there time to promote/market Hive on Twitter. Because when one begins to consistently market/promote Hive on Twitter he/she will be left with little or no time to create Hive contents. And trust me, a lot would rather choose to create Hive content so they can earn rather than burning out their time promoting Hive on Twitter. But when there's incentives to compensate their effort, I believe they won't really care much sacrificing their time dedicated for content creation to promote Hive on Twitter.
Nathanmars may not care much about earning from Hive, but he cares a lot more about the community members such as I and many others who depends on our Hive earning to make a living. If he will be taking community members time by requesting them to promote/market Hive on Twitter consistently, then he needs a way to compensate community members for their time.
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I know how much Nathan cares about Hive having met him. I just wondered what was behind this post.
!ENGAGE 25
Oh! It's okay
Thanks for the engage token 😊
ENGAGEtokens.We're definitely not giving up bro!
It's time for HIVE elite party members to understand that my leadership is bringing more people in our community together and attracting more people to HIVE.
Top 20 witnesses haven't changed and the people who're benefiting from DHF funding are the same people.
There is wide cap between our HIVE elites and our global HIVE community.
There is even more wider cap between HIVE community and wider crypto community. People who talk shill HIVE inside our hive network does very little or no shilling HIVE on Twitter.
CZ and Charles Hoskinson spends most of their energy on Twitter for reason.
I don't personally see a lot of value in "shilling" hive that much on Twitter. I love Nathan and it hurts to say this, but the way he's going on about it, along with Hiro, looks like they're trying to sell snake-oil to people on Hive. I am sure he's doing this for all the best intentions and I'm sure others have told him before what I'm writing now, but the amount of energy he's putting into it is too much. I've had many users, both non-hive and semi-hive invested ones from other chains ask me about the spam and who Nathan is. I know there's been times he's had an impact, the Kim dot com tweet recently was surely because of him, but in general it might be doing more damage to Hive than good.
The worst part is that both him and all of us know the advantages to Hive and that this is the real deal compared to 99.9% of shitcoins and centralized platforms out there so it's really sad that a lot of his actions may have negative consequences to Hive's image and what it is.
I hope he might reconsider doing something else or improving the way he runs his twitter activity to be less spammy but more efficient. Other than that I'd rather see a professional marketing campaign being funded, maybe even Twitter ads?
Alright Acid. I totally can relate to your point of view and I think you might be just right. I hope Nathan do look into it now. I believe this are the kind of valuable feedback he needs to properly structure his plans for marketing Hive.
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It should be quality>quantity, imo.
Absolutely 😀... I had a rethink about that as opened my Twitter App few minutes ago.
I'll try to speak with Nathan one on one. I love his vision for Hive and I'd really love to see him succeed. The whole marketing stuff should get more professional soon after some restrategizing.
Thanks Acid.
Entrepreneurship is about iteration.
The number of iterations leads to a quality product.
I figured out with our HIVE Twitter shilling never had true leader after theycallmedan's account get suspended and never had any real target. Now with my 3rd proposal, I'm taking responsibility and accountability to lead and bring actual results.
I don't believe in Twitter adds nor third party agencies promoting decentralised protocol HIVE. If HIVE was a shitcoin then we need it. Community is our greatest asset and also I realised that I'm one of the great community leader who try to empower decentralisation and growth/sustainability.
I lacked clarity with what problem I can solve for our HIVE until recently because I was always trying to find out the best way to help our community with my own talent/skills.
With my last two DHF proposal, I learned that HIVE Twitter shilling needs true leader and came forward put this proposal.
Also there is a huge different Binance account shilling BNB and CZ shilling BNB on Twitter. People connect with people not with brand nor decentralisation.
I gave up with steem.
We should never give up with our HIVE.
It's my responsibility to try to explain my vision for HIVE and what we're trying to do with community driven Twitter marketing.
Well I hope you can find a little time to post on Hive too. You deserve the rewards for what you do.
I gave up on Steem too. We know where the real value is.
We need more people like Kim Dotcom tweeting about Hive!
!PIZZA
I will be posting HIVE until we win this fight together.
The most powerful asset of HIVE is community and I have built a family here and I'm not going anywhere!
I will do whatever it takes to get our proposal approved and so that we can focus on growing our Hive Network and break the one party system in HIVE.
A lot of us are on your side. We need to work together if Hive is to have any chance of success.
@nathanmars! I sent you a slice of $PIZZA on behalf of @steevc.
Learn more about $PIZZA Token at hive.pizza
Hello @nathanmars,
What we see and what others see is not always the same thing .
I see many talk about long term investment and then get disappointed when it does not pay off in six months/ year or whatever time limit they put on it.
I look at the price of Hive, but I take no comfort in the price being up or down.
The reason I believe in hive is the same as it has always been and that is in the apps being built on it , the fast and free transactions and most importantly the community.
Other blockchains want what we have and put us down because they want their blockchain to be the main blockchain.
Small investors and even big ones are only interested in returns . At the moment they can get easy returns from other crypto’s ( just look at DOGE, it is a shit coin and because Elon Musk is interested in it others are also) .
This pump and dump thing they are running on DOGE will hurt a lot of people and they won’t care as long as they make money . And DOGE will crash once it it all said and done. ( I could be wrong but that is my opinion on the matter).
A long story short a lot of us believe in hive and we also believe in the great work you are doing . Don’t stop . Fail pick yourself up and fail again until the job is done.
I have no interest in leaving hive. If you need help just ask you know where I am.
Have an awesome brother.
Two of the main reason I came back to hive
I thought me being honest & transparent was my weakness and I learned that it's my strength.
It's time to fight for what I stand for and for truly decentralised HIVE Network.
Truly appreciate your trust and support my man!
Send you my energy!
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Thanks a million!
Hola @nathanmars, yo soy relativamente nueva en esta plataforma y me encuentro en este mar de cosas que me faltan por conocer, pero necesito decirte que eres un personaje clave en este proceso, cuando uno comienza a leer comentarios y publicaciones, y a pareces tu nombre, uno sabe que es por algo… y algo bueno... Creo que tu participación le da un valor especial a esta comunidad porque al igual que otros integrantes creen y apuestan con el corazón en el crecimiento orgánico de esta plataforma.
Tu participación en Tuitter es maravillosa, creo fuiste una de las primeras personas que seguí porque vi tu dinamismo y entusiasmo para hacer visible a HIVE de una manera interactiva.
Sigue adelante que segura estoy llegarás muy lejos…
Saludos y bendiciones.
Hi @nathanmars, I am relatively new to this platform and I find myself in this sea of things that I have yet to know, but I need to tell you that you are a key character in this process, when one begins to read comments and publications, and your name appears, one knows it is for something ... and something good .... I think your participation gives a special value to this community because like other members believe and bet with the heart in the organic growth of this platform.
Your participation in Twitter is wonderful, I think you were one of the first people I followed because I saw your dynamism and enthusiasm to make HIVE visible in an interactive way.
Keep going, I'm sure you will go far....
Greetings and blessings.
Let's keep going and keep up the good fight.
2021 is a massive year for HIVE.
Si, sigamos adelante, confiados y con todo el amor disfrutemos este 2021 y de HIVE.
Saludos
Yes, let's go ahead, confident and with all the love let's enjoy this 2021 and HIVE.
Greetings
I am sure that you will not give up even if you don't get the desired support for the Hive promotion proposal. Sometimes things just don't go the way we expect but that does not mean you are doing things wrong. A right could be later same efforts can make things different that time.
I am with you and hope that you will here as well @nathanmars
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We're not giving up!
We will get our proposal funded!
great brother. thank you.
On whom does what you do depend on? 🤔
On what other people think? Now I'm the one who doesn't understand.....
If you believe in Hive act for Hive.... There are many here who are and don't even believe in Hive..... Are you going to demobilize for them? It doesn't seem right to me. Others cannot determine your actions.
I don't know... That's what I think
Community & decentralisation is the most powerful asset of HIVE.
I'm gonna stand up and fight for our decentralised community.
2021 is a massive year for HIVE.
Excellent! That's the attitude! Don't quit, you are a boost for us 🤗🌹.
I was steem loser because I quit.
I'm not quitting HIVE.
Let's keep building HIVE network that run by community for community.
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Hey Nathan. Let's talk soon. My opinion is that it 18M HP is a lot. From the very beginning I just couldn't imagine that much HP voting. I wouldn't even consider this as a loss if you don't get the votes for your proposal.
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Hit me up on Telegram bro!
Asked 10 HBD with my first personal proposal, asked 30 HBD to decentralised HIVE twitter shilling. This is our (not mine) third proposal where I learned twitter shilling needs leadership and results.
To be honest, I feel like if you're not part of one & only elite party in HIVE, they will make you feel like you're not worth it. Socialism for elites and capitalism for every other stakeholders.
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Nooo! I totally appreciate the many times you have helped me and how encouraging you are on Twitter but I totally understand too that sometimes we have to do what we feel is best. Wishing you nothing but luck in any endeavor you take over!
Appreciate your kind words dear.
HIVE needs growth and We need to break one party system.
7 days to go!
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@nathanmars Did you ever have any idea to advertise hive on tiktok and snack? I am just saying, I see tweets like this and that was also partly the reason why doge is what is now. I bought some when jackpaulers mentioned it on tiktok bought cheap and hold my bags. Should really considering doing tiktok.
Thank you for asking.
TikTok Hive shilling would be really cool.
Have you asked anyone else in our community for feedback ?
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I know we're not losing you, I believe in you and everything you're trying to do and I have people would stand up and vote the DHF proposal.
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Thanks a Million Jose!
So you don’t get the 200 daily HBD for your proposal that doesn’t make sense and you get mad about it?
Hello Derangedvisions, I can certainly assure you that Nathan isn't mad about anything. If you don't mind, you can refer to my reply to Steevc comment above.
It's not my proposal. It's ours.
It's hurts to see professional marketing get funded but community driven marketing is not.
Yes I wanted 10 HBD with my first own proposal and 30 HBD with second proposal.
I can't speak for others, but I will be very upset if HIVE loses a user like you. I ask you not to make drastic decisions, no matter what happens in 8 days.
!LUV
Link to vote for @cranium as a witness
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Don't worry bro.
I'm here to stay and fight with HIVE elites!
We are with you!!!
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Thanks a million my man!
Together we rise with HIVE.
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why?
Because it's my responsibility to explain my vision with our community driven, results focused, Hive Twitter Marketing DHF proposal number 170.
Please let me know if you have any feedback.
Thank you
I guess I'm just kinda lost, this might all be over my head. I'm kinda new around here but really appreciate that you're out there chanting HIVE every day.
I'm sure you will find your way around in HIVE.
Happy to help if you need anything :)
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