TravelFeed 3.0, Independence And Cross-Posting

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Wow!

A lot of unthinkable things have happened since our last announcement! The TravelFeed team is finally peeking out of the rabbit hole to come up with with some exciting news looking forward into the future.

But first, a recap of the last two weeks before we dive into TravelFeed 3.0!

As many of you already know, we had a rough time with two of our team members, when they found themselves without a proper internet connection in a very difficult travel situation due to the COVID-19 outbreak. Fortunately, the entire TravelFeed Team is safe now. Huge thanks to all the community members who came in support and cared for our safety!

Many of our users have been asking us if, or when, we're going to move to Hive. The quick answer: TravelFeed, thanks to the new 3.0 release, is now an independent platform and supports Hive as well.

In order to explain to our users/community more deeply, we need to go back to the prior state of the blockchain and contextualize the driving forces behind the changes. The announcement about Hive and the subsequent split from Steem reached us through the public announcement only two days before the hardfork, just like for most of you. TravelFeed was built fully on Steem, trusting the integrity of governance; for such, we believe that we added value to the Steem apps ecosystem.

The sudden changes and problems with Steem nodes resulted in many outages on our App, resulting in partial shutdown for our users. During the two weeks since the hardfork, our daily number of users dropped by almost 50%. We had to re-evaluate the integrity of DPOS governance and concluded that it can be corrupted easily, just like any centralised financial system, where bank accounts can be frozen by authorities.

It was a wake up call for us, learning the hard way that blockchains are not a home, but a tool. We had to take deep long breaths and look at the situation after some time had passed and re-evaluate where TravelFeed.io is standing.

By building our app so close to Steem, we were dependent on the blockchain, relying on the integrity of witnesses and availability of nodes. With all that’s going on, we currently neither see Hive nor Steem as a reliable platform to build a business, nor there are any incentives for apps to build on either chain. It would be difficult for us to adapt to any future sudden split or any potential threat from both the blockchains.

Moreover, in the last weeks the uncertainty of the @delegationtrust app accelerator program ever coming alive on either chain became more clear. Since the launch of communities, we had to helplessly watch high-quality TravelFeed posts getting low payouts. We have a team of 7 curators and put several hours every day into reviewing each new TravelFeed post manually, but with our low voting power we can’t compete with large curation projects that have now become exclusive to their own communities - we knew that we had to implement changes sooner than later.

We want to build a successful platform and politics are not our main interest, that's why we let our users decide where they want to publish their content.

With the launch of TravelFeed 3.0 we're now a standalone platform fully independent of any third-party blockchain - as opposed to being a “true” dApp as before, when we were fetching all contents from the blockchain and letting users contribute from other frontends, we now operate similar to some other apps on Hive and Steem that (let users) write transactions to the blockchain, but do not read anything from the blockchain. In fact, TravelFeed can now be used without pushing any transactions to any blockchain - our users are in full control of if and where they would like to push their content outside of TravelFeed. Currently, we support pushing votes, comments and posts made on TravelFeed to Hive and Steem, but we are open to including other blockchains and platforms in the near future. We will continue to distribute upvotes to posts both on Hive and Steem, but only if they were published through TravelFeed.io. We would like to invite anyone who is powering down their STEEM and no longer using their voting power to follow our curation trail on Steemauto. With becoming a standalone platform, we will no longer support contributing posts, comments or votes through other frontends, but we have moved all existing content.

Investors and supporters of TravelFeed, please rest assured, we're still planning on releasing our own token and we will continue to honor your delegations, whether they are on Hive or Steem. With not only the security of funds, but also the future and release date of SMTs uncertain on both chains, we are now also considering other blockchains for launching our token.

There are many more changes, ideas and future plans not covered in this announcement post because, well, you would be reading until the early morning hours. Please keep an eye on our future announcements!


TravelFeed Becoming A Standalone Platform

With the release of 3.0, which is our biggest implementation of changes yet since we introduced TravelFeed.io, we're now fully independent. All content is now saved in our own database and is secure and immune to whatever blockchain trouble ahead in the future.

Check Out 3.0


Content Distribution Service - Cross Posting

With this update, you don't need a blockchain account to use TravelFeed.io. That means your content stays on the TravelFeed.io platform and could be easily edited and deleted if that's your wish. If you're interested in maximising your post exposure and possible rewards offered thanks to rewards distributed on different blockchains, we're offering a cross posting service, currently supporting Hive and Steem. Please revise these settings on your dashboard.


Beneficiaries

In order to secure your content by storing all your articles and media on our servers we need to cover additional costs and decided to implement a 10% beneficiary share of the rewards your posts and comments are generating thanks to our new content distribution service. Please let us know if the percentage is too much but we hope that our new push service will offset these 10%. With just one press of a button your articles are being distributed to currently three (more to come in the future) possible platforms, this should increase your overall rewards. Additionally, it makes your post eligible for a TravelFeed upvote, which should offset the 10% for most posts.


Disabled Features

We have been working around the clock to transform the code for our 3.0 update. We started in February to turn TravelFeed into a fully independent platform supporting cross-posting to both Steem and Hive. In order to launch as soon as possible, we have temporarily disabled a few features that require more effort to migrate. While we have tested 3.0 extensively, however, the period for testing was much shorter than what we usually aim for before major releases. If you discover any bugs, we kindly ask you to report them to us, so we can fix them as soon as possible.


Why are there 3 different account types and usernames?

Since the hard fork on March 20th, Steem and Hive are completely separate blockchains. This means, that creating an account on one chain does not create it on the other chain. This causes several problems for applications supporting both chains. To illustrate this, if we were using only one username, the following exploit would be possible:

User Bob creates a new account on Hive and logs into TravelFeed. However, his username is not registered on Steem. Hacker Mallory can now create an account with Bob's username on Steem.

  • Mallory logs into TravelFeed with her Steem account - but Mallory gets logged into Bob's account since the username is identical. Since TravelFeed thinks she is Bob, Mallory can post and vote on TravelFeed in Bob's name and even cross-post to Bob's Hive account.
  • Alice creates a post on TravelFeed, cross-posts to Hive and Steem and sets Bob as beneficiary. However, on Steem, Mallory received Bob's share of the post reward since she owns the account with the same username.

This is why we are introducing TravelFeed usernames that are separate from Steem and Hive usernames. We have done the following migrations:

  • If you registered an account on TravelFeed.io or logged in with your Steem account before March 20th, your account exists on TravelFeed with your Steem username. You can log in with Hivesigner or Steemconnect. If you logged in with EasyLogin or Steemconnect before, cross-posting to both Steem and Hive is enabled already.
  • If you registered an account on TravelFeed.io or logged in with your Steem account after March 20th, your account exists on TravelFeed with your Steem username. Your Steem account is connected, but not your Hive account (if you have one). You can log in with Steemconnect (or EasySignUp, if set up) and connect a Hive account in the settings. If you logged in with EasyLogin or Steemconnect previously, cross-posting to Steem is already enabled.
  • If you never logged into TravelFeed.io before but posted to TravelFeed from third-party frontends using one of the participating tags or communities, your account exists on TravelFeed with your Steem username. You can log in with Steemconnect (or EasySignUp, if set up) and connect a Hive account in the settings. You have to enable cross-posting manually.
  • If you have never used TravelFeed before but own a Steem or Hive account, you do not own a TravelFeed account and your Steem/Hive username can be claimed by anyone. Log in with Hivesigner or Steemconnect today to claim your username!

If you have a profile on TravelFeed but get prompted to choose a username when logging in, you probably tried to sign in with Hivesigner without previously connecting your Hive account to your TravelFeed account. Sign in with Steemconnect and connect your Hive account in the settings.

You can link one Steem/Hive account to your TravelFeed account, the username does not have to match your TravelFeed username. A Steem/Hive account may only be linked to a single TravelFeed account at a time.


New Terms And Conditions

Please be aware that we updated our Terms and Conditions, please login to your to TravelFeed.io account and accept the new terms when prompted to you.

New Terms and Conditions


Changelog

New Features

  • New database:
    • Before, users posted from tf to the Steem blockchain, Hivemind then synced the posts from a Steem node (~10sec+). Now, all posts go directly into the tf database (super fast!)
    • As common with most apps, synchronisation is now one-way from tf to the blockchains(s), but not the other way round - posts can no longer be submitted from other platforms
    • Significant query performance improvements
    • Using tf to its full extend is possible without requiring a blockchain account -> future one-click account creation possible
    • All data are now stored in a single database and querying is much easier
    • Support for geospatial queries (e.g. finding nearby posts)
    • Supporting several external platforms/blockchains is possible since the database no longer syncs from an external source
    • Removed all dependencies on unreliable Steem API, except for communities API (moved to Hive for now). External login services (steemconnect/hivesigner) will still be affected by API outages
    • Account names were only migrated for existing TravelFeed users
  • Crossposting service & Hive support:
    • Blockchain account is not mandatory to use tf
    • Link blockchain accounts in settings to enable automated cross-posting of posts, comments & votes.
    • Can only be done by granting posting authority, client signing is no longer supported
    • If nodes of supported blockchains are offline, tf will continue to work and the actions will be broadcasted as soon as the nodes are online again. Same for blockchain restrictions such as low RC, rate limits - the queue system will post as soon as possible
    • For this service we are introducing a 10% beneficiary for posts/comments submitted through tf
  • New community-based curation system: Any user who moderates a supported community (Currently the Hive API is used to determine the user role) can review posts submitted to this community. They then make it to the lists of posts to be curated that is reviewed by a senior curator from the tf team.
  • New comment section:
    • Much faster loading
    • improved layout
    • Removed smile display/ability to smile at comments
  • Inbox-section in Dashboard replaces comments/replies/notifications. New features include an unread section to better keep track of comments
  • Add announcement blogs to dashboard, show only announcements instead of all tf posts in sidebar
  • Access to matomo statistics in Dashboard: monthly post views
  • Support for viewing non-English posts

Improvements

  • Emoji support for all browsers using tweemoji
  • Render all feeds on the client (prevents caching issues)
  • Fix html editor dark mode
  • More details in card headers: Community, user role
  • Better post recommendations: Now nearby posts are suggested instead of posts from the same country
  • Increased login validity time to 90 days - especially great for app users!

Temporarily removed features

We have been coding non-stop for the past week, but in order to push out 3.0 as soon as possible, we have not upgraded all features yet and disabled some temporarily that used to be closely linked to Steem. These features will be back later this month adjusted to our new system.

  • Signups
  • Post scheduling
  • Notifications
  • Map (temporarily showing only a small selection of posts)
  • Setting up EasyLogin for existing blockchain accounts

Removed features

  • Payout type & beneficiary picker (steem account !== hive account if created after the fork -> cannot use same beneficiaries for both chains)
  • Keychain support
  • Payouts overview (payouts can be seen in the Dashboard posts tab for each chain separately)
  • Wallet page
  • Resteem button

Winners of This Week's Round-up

And with all this exciting news, we don't want to forget to highlight our three favorite TravelFeed.io posts from this week. The rewards will go to the first three places as follows: 1st place - 14 STEEM, 2nd place - 7 STEEM and 3rd place - 3 STEEM.

The thumbnails are directly linked to the original posts. Please, click on the image and enjoy the read!


Place 1


Place 2


Place 3


Join TravelFeed!

Are you not on TravelFeed yet? We invite you to check out TravelFeed.io and to join over 1000 travelers on our Discord community. We’re also looking for one more curator to join our team.

We’re in Beta and continuously improve TravelFeed, meaning that there are still some bugs. If you notice anything or have feedback for us, please don’t hesitate to contact us on Discord, leave a comment or open a bug report on Github!

Consider Delegating To Us

Once we launch our token, there will be a generous airdrop to delegators. Your delegation does not only supports the growth of this incredible project, but also helps the entire travel community. Our voting power is fully used for curation of the best TravelFeed posts. Feel free to use the following links according to the amount you would like to delegate to @travelfeed, or head to our Support Us page to delegate a custom amount with the click of a button.

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We'd like to thank every single delegator who believes and trusts in us.

Vote for Our Witness

You can support TravelFeed by voting for our Hive witness @travelfeed. If you want to vote for our witness but are not sure how to do that, it's easy: Head over to our Support Us page and hit the witness voting button to vote with Hive Keychain, or Hivesigner if you are not a Keychain user. Alternatively, use this Hivesigner link.


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Since you guys can’t seem to actually listen to anything anyone is telling you and are not open to actually working with anyone.. just being assholes on social media.. I’ll copy my reply to this comment below here:

Ok this is just ridiculous. So let's actually discuss why JP was pretty much told to GTFO as it's not about running on both Hive and Steem, as many apps are doing.BA0964FD5FCE4F0C822E21371D31F56E.jpeg
Rather due to the fact that there was absolutely no personal responsibility as well as blaming everyone else for the issues TF faced after the HF (which they had prior knowledge of).The "issues" outlined in the announcement about API's being unreliable- 47048D1C22D44DB782693F680084B043.jpeg197C0D7F378844D2AF1547CB37BB505F.jpeg So a free service that Anyx provides (and Travelfeed depends on) announced they would be moving to Hive. JP didn't read this announcement and felt anyx should have come to him directly. And now let's get to the real issue here as it was stated that there was no time or help offered to get TF implemented to Hive in time as you only heard of the HF 3 days before (not the day before as you say in your post)- 5750AA17935844B888F63E06ED4E7B74.jpeg405D29B71E6949548437D2BA34AC9F66.jpegD845C027F1294FB6922DBD5471CDC056.jpegBAEBD8EA346A4FCA938D30015B5F3932.jpegC065F112BE554AB4A5DAA8A8337058AB.jpeg80E3D8065EEF459A9E65DD481BBE7B9F.jpegEFCF90DBD4B94283BF6A4394222BE2BD.jpeg75D86F660F344422991FA73A7380D5F6.jpeg71E93514FC194B0A8FDCAFEF32C87499.jpeg68564A4A51CC4954ABF0DCE894E318B0.jpegFF7853FF21B544C88FA1F8922E7D00FA.jpegC51D4FD041E9414AADFE9A65DDE3CED2.jpeg
So again he mentioned the frustration was that Travelfeed wasn't offered funding to come to Hive (as well, it's clear that is the only real issue here)
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He ignored the fact that there was a chain being built and it was a bit chaotic. That many people were working together to ensure apps could migrate easily and everyone was working together.. as a team.. to ensure Hive was ready. All without funding. \n\nSo then it was shown why Steem is an important factor for TF -BA63FFCE55E6495892EA6F2891A4C620.jpegFC66A94B328641DD9B2D5879C6A2C007.jpeg

There was some discussion about how stating there was no incentive to build on either chain at the same time as using the rewards pool to incentivize users to post on TF as well as apply for delegation and essentially demand funding seemed a bit hypocritical... but he didn't want to hear it. He then went on to tell us all we were idiots. And that Steemit inc was clearly more intelligent than anyone at Hive because they would give you all delegations.

Mind you, during this.. many asked how much delegation was needed and actually stated they would have supported TF, but considering we all were still setting up the base infrastructure of the Hive chain, funding dApps hadn't come up yet.

JP’s inability to take any sort of personal responsibility as well as repeatedly stating that there was no value in Hive (accept of course the want to suck from the rewards pool) and essentially being an absolute asshole is the reason he was eventually removed from a chat room focused on Hive - as it was clear he had no interest in being there.

So, thanks so much for playing.. hopefully you get that Steemit inc delegation as it's clear that's your only focus.

Here let me help summarize this post since it is quite unruly and people may miss the important stuff.

"With all that's going on, we currently neither see Hive nor Steem as a reliable platform to build a business, nor there are any incentives for apps to build on either chain."

You forgot to add "we are simply here to make money as fast as possible and don't give a fuck about supporting the platform we build on"

I hope everyone shows Travelfeed they are wrong with their downvotes.

If you have no incentive to be on Hive then why the hell would you be on Hive? Move on to some other chain and use them.

It's not the dApps that have to support a blockchain, it's a blockchain that suports dApps... no blockchain would reach any value if people don't build on them.

We've always been against using Steem/Hive for user retention, however, with SMTs taking for ever to launch, we had no other option.

You forgot to add "we are simply here to make money as fast as possible and don't give a fuck about supporting the platform we build on"

TravelFeed has never touched a single penny of its stake to cover costs, it's been used for more than 2 years to reward users, everything else came out of our pockets! Over this same time we've reached many people to help support us, with a no from the vast majority.

Can we end up creating our own token on Hive if it evolves? Yes... but with the current war going on I'm not so sure that any serious developer is gonna join.

You got it all wrong again and I won't let you reduce the love, sweat and blood I and the entire TravelFeed Team put into the blockchain and into our project to be just being here to cash in.

All this work we put in, to only to wake up one morning to find out that there was a HF been worked on for weeks - a post to let us know the fork will happen in 2 days notice. It's a huge deal and our platform was entirely streamlined to work on Steem. Releasing that the work we put in doesn't seem to matter to anyone working on that fork and knowing that we won't be able to adjust with a 2 days notice, resulting in destroying the functionality of our platform we fully dedicated to one blockchain. The user base we were building for over 2 years dealing with a broken platform for days! Sorry, we won't let that happen again.

Actually JP already admitted that it wasn't due to issues integrating and lack of time (as help was actually offered for that) it was that no money was offered. So you guys should get on the same page.

2 days to move to a new blockchain? I don't call that a lot of notice. In the meantime the Inner Circle has been working on the fork for two weeks, not thinking to maybe give applications a quick heads-up? Oh wait the Hive Eco System didn't seem to have too many problems to swing da switch.

Again please don't reduce our project to the money factor - if that's our main focus we would have stopped a long time ago. TravelFeed is a project of love and passion.

You can see the screenshots - it’s clear the focus.

As far as the timing, yes it was short notice. I have personal DMs to you were we discuss that and I offer any technical support needed.. which was never asked for. All that was asked for was whether money would be provided.

As far as the other.. the convo for another chain happened in the Steemit dev slack weeks prior, which your team is a part of (I’m not). Looks like you guys weren’t keeping up to date on information (clear as you didn’t know the plans of your api provider either, even though it was announced) and therefore weren’t in on any planning prior to the announcement. After the announcement we had a conversation, and help was offered.

You can keep making excuses all you want and pretending this is some conspiracy theory.. but facts are very easy to find.

I’m sorry you feel you weren’t included, everyone was working pretty hard to make things happen.. and no one was babied or reached out to personally - everyone had the personal responsibility to stay up to date on information, ask for more if it wasn’t clear, ask to be added to chats if needed for additional help and essentially work to ensure their projects were ready to go - even if it was only 3 days notice to integrate an app. Seems many found it to be plenty of time and complimented the ease of integration provided. (Which was due to all that core work done for the few weeks).

So feel free to stomp your feet all you want and respond in gifs, cry on twitter using false claims etc.

The truth is easy to find, and most can be seen in those screenshots. So I understand the focus to make a project successful, no need to shit on everyone trying to help you in the process. Also no reason to try to blame everyone else for the issues you encountered. Plenty of help was available.. but no, no one offered you a check.

The fork was the solution to the steem Centralization due an attack. Nobody force you not to continue with steem if you can't see the potential with Hive.

At the current state we don't see potential on neither of the two, that's the state until we are proven wrong.

Our business plan depends highly on reliability, that's why we've decided to run independent, but also let our users cross-post on other platforms outside of TravelFeed.

Why is it ok for Peakd to be part of the the Hive eco system when the same developers are running
Steempeak supporting Steem?

They aren't going around saying "apps dont need blockchains, blockchains need apps" and "neither hive nor steem offer any incentive to build a business on" while sucking the teet of the Steem/Hive reward pool and begging for delegations.

Your team shows a fundamental lack of knowledge regarding what a blockchain is, at least JPPhotography, and how to present your product/company as an investment opportunity.

It is your job to sell yourself to me not vice versa.

Asking for delegations yes, who didn't with a project or applications but you can't say that we've been deep down the crack, leaving it spiffy clean just to get a delegation.

So now projects supporting STEEM who are not us or ok on HIVE? You said it!

Yes, as an investor I would love to work with your team. /s

You guys repel investors; and you are surprised you lack funding.

You guys have no real traffic; and you are surprised you lack funding.

You keep wasting time with me, an individual that wants nothing to do with TravelFeed, instead of working internally with your team and improving your app/product to be more inviting to investors. Keep wasting time arguing in the comments. And it isn't just one of your team, but several.

I spend some time, as a Hive stakeholder, curating content on the blockchain. That means upvoting valuable content and downvoting non-valuable or abusive content. I have made my mind up regarding TravelFeed and when I see the posts I will vote accordingly.

Have a good day, sir.

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Since you guys can’t seem to actually listen to anything anyone is telling you and are not open to actually working with anyone.. just being assholes on social media.. I’ll copy my reply to this comment below here:

Ok this is just ridiculous. So let's actually discuss why JP was pretty much told to GTFO as it's not about running on both Hive and Steem, as many apps are doing.BA0964FD5FCE4F0C822E21371D31F56E.jpeg
Rather due to the fact that there was absolutely no personal responsibility as well as blaming everyone else for the issues TF faced after the HF (which they had prior knowledge of).The "issues" outlined in the announcement about API's being unreliable- 47048D1C22D44DB782693F680084B043.jpeg197C0D7F378844D2AF1547CB37BB505F.jpeg So a free service that Anyx provides (and Travelfeed depends on) announced they would be moving to Hive. JP didn't read this announcement and felt anyx should have come to him directly. And now let's get to the real issue here as it was stated that there was no time or help offered to get TF implemented to Hive in time as you only heard of the HF 3 days before (not the day before as you say in your post)- 5750AA17935844B888F63E06ED4E7B74.jpeg405D29B71E6949548437D2BA34AC9F66.jpegD845C027F1294FB6922DBD5471CDC056.jpegBAEBD8EA346A4FCA938D30015B5F3932.jpegC065F112BE554AB4A5DAA8A8337058AB.jpeg80E3D8065EEF459A9E65DD481BBE7B9F.jpegEFCF90DBD4B94283BF6A4394222BE2BD.jpeg75D86F660F344422991FA73A7380D5F6.jpeg71E93514FC194B0A8FDCAFEF32C87499.jpeg68564A4A51CC4954ABF0DCE894E318B0.jpegFF7853FF21B544C88FA1F8922E7D00FA.jpegC51D4FD041E9414AADFE9A65DDE3CED2.jpeg
So again he mentioned the frustration was that Travelfeed wasn't offered funding to come to Hive (as well, it's clear that is the only real issue here)
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He ignored the fact that there was a chain being built and it was a bit chaotic. That many people were working together to ensure apps could migrate easily and everyone was working together.. as a team.. to ensure Hive was ready. All without funding. \n\nSo then it was shown why Steem is an important factor for TF -BA63FFCE55E6495892EA6F2891A4C620.jpegFC66A94B328641DD9B2D5879C6A2C007.jpeg

There was some discussion about how stating there was no incentive to build on either chain at the same time as using the rewards pool to incentivize users to post on TF as well as apply for delegation and essentially demand funding seemed a bit hypocritical... but he didn't want to hear it. He then went on to tell us all we were idiots. And that Steemit inc was clearly more intelligent than anyone at Hive because they would give you all delegations.

Mind you, during this.. many asked how much delegation was needed and actually stated they would have supported TF, but considering we all were still setting up the base infrastructure of the Hive chain, funding dApps hadn't come up yet.

JP’s inability to take any sort of personal responsibility as well as repeatedly stating that there was no value in Hive (accept of course the want to suck from the rewards pool) and essentially being an absolute asshole is the reason he was eventually removed from a chat room focused on Hive - as it was clear he had no interest in being there.

So, thanks so much for playing.. hopefully you get that Steemit inc delegation as it's clear that's your only focus.

You're all mad that we took matters into our own hands? Are we after funding and delegations? What business isn't? Are we looking out for the interest of our users, hell yeah. Are we going to still exist with or without delegations, em yes! I think you'll extremely nervous realizing that there is a flaw in the way your "decentralization" is set up. Did some things all of sudden pop up, the "Inner Circle" hasn't thought about? Yeah, y'all continue to be mad at us, your welcome!

Don't pretend there was ever room for any other applications or curation project outside of the "inner circle". And please don't make it all about US SUPPORTING STEEM - we leave it into the hands of our users to decide where to publish their content. Will Hive and Steem be the only blockchains our users can publish to, no! Matter of fact we're talking to an other blockchain next week. And there are more to come.

Also your tone is more than unprofessional, so is posting chats of others which were semi private.

It seems like we were hitting some sensitive nerves without even trying:

Doesn't really matter what some individual users are mad at right? Because your users (the few you have) are what is important.

Focus on building something worth an investor's attention and THEN go seek investment. At the moment, you dont have any real product and apparently WE hit some nerves to get your entire team showing great PR in the comments.

I am sure investors are watching your company replies and thinking "now that is a team I want to work with!".

Imagine how your answers look like to outside of the Inner Circle developers.

Doesn't look too tempting to me!

You respond with gifs in your comments while representing a "business" seeking investors and delegations.

You can't make this shit up.

No one is mad except you all.. who is going around bashing projects apparently based on “no help”.. when in fact it’s due to the fact no one offered you money to migrate.

I see no issue with looking for delegations or anything else.. but it’s a bit weird to say there is no value in building on a platform at the same time as wanting funding from it.

There is no inner circle.. there are a hundred plus people working their ass off together to make something. The excuses are lame.

Also, I’m not a professional.. I’m just some asshole on the internet who used to support you. And it’s a bit weird to question someone’s professionalism when responding in gifs tbh.

Felt the screenshots were pretty relevant as you guys are trying to spin something else.. no one cares if TF is on both chains and it probably would have gotten support if you guys would have went about it a different way.

Good luck.

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Lol. You think someone’s Individual account they made which apparently is for an upcoming project is proof of an inner circle? 😂

Are you serious?

I think you're going to be quite surprised once you find out what innerHive actually is.

Thanks for the laugh, moron.

HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT!!! OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING FOR FREE FOR 2 YEARS AND WE DIDN'T GET THE SUPPORT FROM THOSE PEOPLE TROLLING US NOW EVEN BEFORE THIS DECISION.

The co-founders have been using their own money to fund the costs of TravelFeed. We have been in (literal physical) danger and yet we chose to still work on this!

This post is too complex and bulky. One can't keep a track of what he is reading. This post should have been broken into 4 simpler updates for ease of understanding.

That was a boring read and I can't even explain to anyone what I just read.

Please look this up.


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A lot of things happened and we have more announcements coming up soon, so this was rather long.

But here is a quick breakdown

  1. TravelFeed.io is now a standalone platform

  2. We let our users decide where to publish their content

  3. For now Hive and Steem is supported but we're going to implement other blockchains, platforms and frontends in the future

I suggest you read it using TravelFeed.io as recommended on top for a better reading experience. Some of TF features are not supported in other front ends.

Beneficiaries
In order to secure your content by storing all your articles and media on our servers we need to cover additional costs and decided to implement a 10% beneficiary share of the rewards your posts and comments are generating thanks to our new content distribution service. Please let us know if the percentage is too much but we hope that our new push service will offset these 10%. With just one press of a button your articles are being distributed to currently three (more to come in the future) possible platforms, this should increase your overall rewards. Additionally, it makes your post eligible for a TravelFeed upvote, which should offset the 10% for most posts.


Damn, while I understand the need to pay for servers I am a bit sad to hear this. Mostly this was the reason I decided also not to make my own blog website on steempress. I think 10% cut is too high everything considered. I think this percentage might keep many users from using travelfeed just like it kept me and others from using steempress, Dtube etc.

Isn't there other ways for this to get paid?
Wouldn't something like The Decentralized Hive Fund (DHF) be exactly for this kind of purpose? You have an awesome project going that could drive in a lot of people to hive. I would vote for this proposal in a heartbeat.

And then maybe eventually find ways to generate other means of revenue such as adds or when there are a lot more people even 2-3% beneficiaries might be enough? 10% is just such a high number for those of us who wish to use this website consistently that I really hope you might reevaluate this decision.

Besides this everything is just amazing! I Cannot wait to use your website for my upcoming adventures!

We do understand your concern but in perspective Travelfeed exists since the end of 2017and all the proceeds since then always have been re-invested into the platform and rewarding our users. And this will continue, we won't be paying ourselves out or are using earnings not related to the growth of TravelFeed and to secure our independence.

Any extra costs have been paid out of our own pockets but with our future plans to register our company and to release our own token, we're in need of some funds. We do have plans to give our users monetization options through conventional channels but before we can do that we need to be fully registered. When that time comes we're reconsidering the set beneficiary.

Also with the option to cross post your articles, you could be earning rewards on potential, several blockchains and frontends.

That is very true! Regardless of your decision, I will keep using travelfeed, just hope others will see it is worth it as well! :-)

There is somehow "no incentive" for them to build on Hive yet they are gladly taking your money to support their business.

Seems like a fucking incentive to me @travelfeed.

Tell the truth, @travelfeed remains on Steem and Hive simultaneously to double dip in rewards. You talk shit about the security or stability of the blockchain you are using to fund your crappy business.

Then you claim the blockchain isn't a place for a business to build.

If that's true, then @travelfeed should go somewhere else. I'll be flagging all @travelfeed content

You clearly have no idea what TravelFeed stands for and was working on for over 2 years!

I am relieved to hear that the Travelfeed team is safe after hearing that a couple of you had been stuck and affected by the coronavirus. Please stay safe hey!

As for the rest of the post...Wow, I don't know what to say so I'll just start typing and hope some thoughts come out. When I first shared this post to my blog yesterday, there weren't these comments I saw this morning!

I fully understand and was kind of expecting the move to be independent after the hard fork. The way I saw dapps anyway was that they'd create the front ends in a cool way to attract casual users and they don't really need to have a deep understanding a developer needs.

I don't think you needed to go in to quite so much detail with the post about the decision although it sounds like there was a lot more going on "behind closed doors" than meets the eye.

Not that my opinion matters but I'm sad and torn to see fighting happening between a dapp and community that gave me a huge lift and lead to my first @curie upvote in Travelfeed and the co-founders of curation guilds like @c-squared who also have shown support that I'm grateful for.

OK, back to music studio/man cave, grab a beer and wait for this all to blow over...

I am so sorry to hear about all those troubles (both the personal ones of your members and the technical ones resulting from the fork and everything). I am convinced that Hive is a solid and trustworthy place to run applications but I can understand your reasons and concerns that made you transform TF into an independent platform. Wishing you all the best guys, I cannot wait to start using TF again :)

The reasoning is because they want more money while simultaneously bashing the blockchains they use to support their business.

I am afraid these are unjustly accusations. These guys have been working really hard on their project and put enormous amounts of time and also a lot of their own money in it while never taking anything back so far...

We're still not going to take anything for our own gain. As long as TravelFeed exists, all the proceed will be used to secure functionality, user rewards and growth.

Support the business????? We can't even get anything here for 2 years and we have just supported the authors. Travelers come first and not one sided people like you.

Again .. no idea! There is more depth to it. Users on TF come first, always!

Funny thing, weren't you the guy who sold most of his STEEM earned from being a witness many months ago? It sure is your right to sell your own funds, but don't make unfunded accusations - so far we never sold a single STEEM/HIVE to cover our costs, it has all been either powered up or used to fund the price pool for contests benefiting our users. We have been running tf on our own money, for me personally 1/3 of my total monthly spending goes towards covering tf expenses and that amount will increase significantly in the near future as we are working with lawyers to make sure that our token complies with regulations.

So at the same time that you pretend to be high and mighty and not taking any funds, you are creating a token to sell to users.

I have no sympathy for your costs. And you have no desire to build or contribute to Hive outside of whatever enriches you (Travelfeed) personally.

If you run a business you have operating costs. That's business.

Do you know how our token will operate as part of our business? Do you know how we pretend to sell our tokens? Did you know that we are registering our company to comply with token regulations, instead of issuing a random token?

How can one build anything on Steem/Hive on such childish environment where consensus can be so radical?

You accusations carry no fundamentals, it's just shots fired at us for reasons I don't get.

I don't care about your business. I don't care how you plan to dupe users into buying your token. I definitely don't care if you register your token so you can more effectively sell it under US securities law.

The behavior of you and your team is inexcusable. Especially of jppphotgraphy.

But guess what, I am just a single user. I am just one person with my stake to use as I please. And I please to use my stake to show my disagreement with TravelFeed.

You guys have way too big of an ego for having such minimal traffic.

You need to learn how to be more professional and have an actual business plan that is attractive to investors before crying publicly about not getting investment.

Hive doesn't need TravelFeed. TravelFeed needs Hive. See ya later.

I don't care about your business. I don't care how you plan to dupe users into buying your token. I definitely don't care if you register your token so you can more effectively sell it under US securities law.

That's exactly the type of behavior that will drive away anyone looking for a blockchain to build on, reflect about it and don't be afraid to change your mentality.

What happens to any blockchan (Steem/Hive/Ethereum/etc) if nobody wants do build on them?

What we learned in the past is that content solely stored on one blockchain is not safe. Travelfeed had to implement measures to secure the hard work of their users.

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Bang, even on HIVE I did it again... I just rehived your post!
Sorry, no beers or deranged or trdo yet... waiting on steem-engine to make the move to HIVE...
Check the last changes here

 4 years ago  Reveal Comment

Thank you so much for your supporting words! We had many discussions within the team and this is the result of it. But we're now listening to our users and adjust as needed, so we can grow in the future.

 4 years ago  Reveal Comment