RE: @Justinsunsteemit witness voting policy

in #steem4 years ago

Hi @Justinsunsteemit, I'm a stakeholder, just like you. I don't own a front-end on the STEEM blockchain like Steemit, Busy or Steempeak, nor do I have 70M Steempower. I'm curious what makes you believe that the opinion of witnesses is more important than the opinion of other stakeholders (big and small). At least, you do come across like this.

Keep in mind that the Witnesses are chosen by a majority of stakeholders that cast their votes on them. Please honor and respect that. I understand that disagreement, in general, is fair game, and I believe that many of us are more than happy to listen to what you have to say in order to have a constructive discussion. When meeting on common grounds there is a higher chance that there will be a solution that can benefit all parties involved. After all, you're one of many stakeholders just like me, so I'd rather consult than taking a hostile stance that brings no good to anyone.

Since you are the one that acquired 70M Steem tokens, whether its promised destination is jeopardized or not, I believe you will not gain the trust nor the backing from the majority of the stakeholders unless you honor the promises being made by Steemit Incorporation. It is up to you to decide whether you break those promises that initiated many of us to invest in the Steem blockchain. If you do choose to break these promises, I, personally, will take this act as a threat as it is directly in conflict with managing my own investment and its risk.

Regarding your query and request upon opinions;

If you care about other community members and stakeholders their opinion, I took the liberty to answer your query.

  1. Are you willing to believe the sanctity of private property or do you just want to take innocent people’s hard-earned money under toxic “consensus”?

  2. Of course.

  3. Are you willing to shorten the SP power-down period to 3-7 days from the current period?

  4. No. It has been officially announced by Steemit Inc. to decrease the power-down period from 13 weeks to 4 weeks.

  5. Are you willing to remove the down-voting policy of STEEM blockchain?

  6. No. Removing the down-voting policy is directly in conflict with the governance of intellectual property (copyright) and decentralization itself.

  7. Are you willing to introduce smart contracts into the STEEM blockchain?

  8. Yes. I'm looking forward to seeing the implementation of Smart Contracts on the STEEM blockchain.

  9. Are you willing to keep a good relationship with prestigious exchanges and increase our STEEM token value or do you just want to fuck them?

  10. How can I give my opinion on an opinionated question?

  11. Are you willing to protect the rights of the community members or do you just want to hurt and destroy those you disagree with?

  12. Could you give a few examples of people that you think are different community members? As I said in the above, disagreement can lead to agreement. But not by force.

    Are you willing to destroy those who disagree with you by force?

  13. Are you willing to support Steemit, Inc. in accomplishing their job to increase our token value or do you just want to stab them in the back for your own interest?

  14. I support and endorse Steemit Inc. to further develop the STEEM blockchain and its community projects. This has been a huge success over the last couple of years. However, I do not support Steemit Inc. taking a political stance in governance, nor requests prestigious exchanges to utilize user funds on its exchange in order to participate.

  15. Are you willing to increase STEEM token value that benefits the whole community or do you only care about your own interest and don’t give a fuck about the real community?

  16. Are you?

  17. Are you willing to welcome new investors in the future and include everyone into our community or do you just want to fuck those new investors, freeze their investment and kick them out?

  18. Depending on what terms they are willing to be part of the community, I would be happy to welcome any future investor.

  19. Are you willing to always stick to the truth or will you just spread rumors to generate misunderstandings in the community and poison our community culture?
  20. Do you like Justin Sun or you just want to fuck him?



  21. Justin, you mentioned "real community members", and "our community" a couple of times. Would you mind addressing all community members in your future queries? You acquired Steemit Inc., it is a front-end website that translates block transactions on the Steem blockchain. Nothing more, nothing less.

    The current existing community of Steemit Inc. that uses steemit.com is huge and could be considered as the most valuable asset when acquiring Steemit Inc.

    This huge following/community and attraction of various investors is mostly because promises were being made by Steemit Inc. their stake. By breaking these promises, it is almost inevitable that the Steemit Inc. community will depart from Steemit Inc. and seek a different party to cast their votes upon as there is no logical reason to trust Steemit Inc. when promises are broken.

    Yes, it is true, you have 70M Steem Power to vote with, but there is a high chance that you will lose the entire existing community that has equal, if not more, Steem Power than you if you do not keep Steemit Inc. promises.

    It is up to you how you want to use Steemit Inc. stake, but many of the community members will disagree if promises will be broken, and make sure to vote on Witnesses that pledge their loyalty and integrity to keep anyone's investment and funds save.

    The actions that you have taken as Steemit Inc. has not yet been proven to be promising, as replacing the communities top 20 witnesses with power before consulting with the entire community. Keep in mind that Stakeholders are supposed to choose Witnesses, and they should be kept informed as there are votes to win, and votes to loose ;).

    Cheers,
    Ruben

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Very balanced response. Enlightened to read. Time to be more calm. thx

Thanks for stopping by Roeland, let's see if @justinsunsteemit takes the effort to read as well.

If such a letter would have been written addressed to an adult that can think responsibly, I'm sure this would be very effective.

However, you are addressing Justin Sun. I would not expect too much.

Things go both ways @fitzgibbon :), I think there is so much miscommunication/misunderstanding going on, it is understandable things are getting heated quite fast. The problem is that when we respond out of emotion, we tend to forget the goal of mutual benefits.

Personally, and I don't want to sound harsh, I'm sick and tired of the 'miscommunication' spin on things.

SF 22.1 was not an emotional decision. It had supermajority support from the elected witnesses. And as such, it was the law. That's DPOS.

Justin's reaction, creating 20 sock puppets and using all his available stake + exchanges to rewrite the law on this platform, unfortunately was also DPOS.

Now we will see if such a system has any chance for survival. It certainly is vulnerable when stake is not distributed evenly. The problem is very clear if power is centralised in one organisation/person. But I've felt too there's a group of OG Steem miners still holding on to a large stake, which is not particularly health for the platform either (i.e. the famous 'circlejerk').

I would hope that the longer the platform survives, the stronger and more decentralized it gets.

Nice to see a well written and calm response to this situation. If both sides of this conflict would take the effort to express themselves in clear and neutral tone like this without calling names there is still a chance of a good outcome of this situation. Thank you!

Appreciate that @carapthian, I agree and I hope so as well. We are all stakeholders of Steem, and Steem is a place for everyone, right? :)

Exactly, in the meantime let's just try to put nice content to the platform and keep it going while hoping all the drama will calm down

Aw yeah Ruben, you're articulate and to the point. There would be no reason for anyone invested in STEEM to react in an adverse manner if there were no conflict of interest. Clearly, where others may come from and the policy they are familiar with can be different, but if one wishes to be or participate in something like STEEM, some foreknowledge of how STEEM operates might be necessary, no? I would love for this individual to see these responses as a sign life exists, and that everyone would do more than bat an eyelash if they noticed their votes, trust, and stake usurped and undermined. Say it again for the people in the back! #TryThis

Knowledge is key, I think that both parties have taken understandable actions. However, they can be seen as hostile to both as well. So, while we focus on defending our own priorities, I believe that we kinda slack in meeting on common grounds (where it takes two to be effective) so there can be mutual benefits. I hope @justinsunsteemit can understand where the community is coming from, and that he knows that we can understand where he is coming from. No further actions should be taken before having a conversation. I was kinda excited for Justin Sun to show up, his marketing team has been doing a great job and I believe the cooperation between the two platforms would benefit -everyone-.

He was trained by Jack Ma, I dont expect anything of tangible value to be produced by anything Justin Sun produces, it's just sad he is risking his money on such an outlandish approach to a thriving blogging community.

If I was interested in becoming a police officier, I wouldn't go commit a crime knowing I could talk about a job with the cops when they showed up.

That's one way to see it... No one would go and commit a crime if they know it's a crime, while others do if they know for sure they can get away with it. So, the question is -> why? A question you and I both do not have the answer to, we can speculate, but that is certainly a factor that can make the situation worse rather than it will improve it.

You make a bet on Jack Ma and see where that gets you when Amazon takes their Ibdian market shares 1 inch at a time.

I know where my money is and it's not with a Chinese communist.

Are there more fucks to give after this read? What the fuck

Thank you for your input, I hope you were able to vent out some emotions.
Cheers

Waste of time lol. If he ever reads that, he doesn’t even read two line sentenses of mine in wechat group.

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Whether @justinsunsteemit reads this or not, I guess he is busy and his team has a slightly bigger chance of reading this. Chances are slim, I agree. But not entirely a waste of time in my opinion. I don't feel entitled to being answered either. Just sharing my thoughts on the situation.

Very good response to his questions, I hope this balanced approach is adopted by all sides.

Cg

Thanks @cryptogee! Appreciate your visit :), let's hope for the better. Crypto is being smashed at the moment, so most probably a brighter future lies in front of us. Cheers