The main issue is that DV is not necessary at all. If it is then it needs to be better clarified in the Whitepaper.
III.1. Delegated Proof of Stake Pg.5
Delegated Proof of Stake (DPoS) is the consensus algorithm behind Hive. In a DPoS algorithm, the selection of block producers (called ’witnesses’ on Hive) and all other consensus-based functions are decided based on the weight of staked funds supporting them. Stakeholders hold the highest prominence in DPoS. DPoS consensus is considered to be the most inclusive and the least centralized of all the blockchain protocols.2 DPoS was first invented by Dan Larimer as a functional alternative to the Proof of Work system introduced with Bitcoin. Other prominent DPoS blockchains include BitShares and EOS; they are originally based on Larimer’s Graphene framework.
V.5. Content Monetization pg.8
During that time it may be curated upwards or downwards through upvotes and downvotes until its final value is determined at the end of the 7 day...
V.6. Distributing Rewards Pg.9
When a user submits a post it initiates a 7 day curation window during which it may be upvoted or downvoted until its final evaluation is reached at the end of 7 days.
https://hive.io/whitepaper.pdf
Only two sentences for explanation of downwards voting.
Why is there only downvoting on posts? Why not add it to witness voting and proposals as well or just eliminate it from Hive all together.
Why not craft a proposal on this @ura-soul?
Also should we mention EOS and Bitshares as prominent or at all in our whitepaper?
I think downvoting does have its uses, like to 'hide' hate speech or some kind of blatant political extremism. Even disagreement with rewards. The tune of 200$ on a well put together post though? Not sure that was necessary. Hurts getting hit like that. And since I showed my happy face over here, I've been put on 'their' radar and already being targeted. Is what it is. See what happens when somebody says something? Just saying. Least I got a reason though 😂
Seems like you might be more open to applying downvoting equally to all aspects of DPoS Staked voting consensus. I personally think the way the whitepaper was written only protects the witnesses ranking, the proposals they want to pass or influence others proposals. I do not want to assume it was intentional but I do feel it is up to us to better clarify or apply DPoS in a more fair way as the Whitepaper is very clear about how DPoS applies to witness voting and proposals and defines the processes but it is not clear why downvoting was only applied to content.
Ya I would, there are several 'proposals' being passed I think are total bullshit and if I could 'downvote' them, I would. I don't even understand how they are even up there. The 'stabilizers' aren't having any real effect as HBD has not stayed pegged. I mean, the whole point of adjusting payouts via HIVE/HP/HBD is what keeps it there. $2k+ *still a week for keychain? I mean, now you're just paying them to do nothing because there have been no updates to it in a couple months. Not that it even needs any (I love keychain btw) and there are a few others that make no sense. Is what it is though. I can talk 'til I'm blue in the face, but I don't quite have the HP to back it all up (yet).
Interesting then I encourage you write a proposal to include consensus voting for witnesses and proposals, I will support no doubt and you have stronger community support than I. Truly, that was plan B for me if this did not gain traction. Still yet most important objective for this proposal was bring awareness and provide a workable solution that would encourage a stronger and more cohesive community for Hive.
I was asking for downvotes on witnesses in 2017, but nobody listened to me.
The way I see it, it will take enough people to come here and change the culture, otherwise attrition will slowly win.
Education, timing and awareness is key. I do not expect this to get passed at all but already has way more votes than expected. I think it is time for change to start to happen in regards to taking ownership as a community or at least letting them know we can make proposals to better our institution that is built upon this Whitepaper and make a more fair DPoS future/foundation to build upon. Proposals are not just for money! Rock Rock Planet Rock, I want my planet Back!
I personally don't think that is a smart thing to do. Whales are healthy for the system. When you apply Downvotes to a DPoS system to one out of three aspects I have to wonder who wrote the whitepaper in a way to prevent downvotes on witnesses and proposals.
A simple elimination of the words
or downwards and downvote in the whitepaper will allow for everyone to live together peacefully