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RE: A reward system based on views like youtube could be possible on steem...I think..

in #steem6 years ago

Maybe this post of yours could be penalized and the money could come to mine? I think that would be fair.

Or maybe try and post it on facebook see how much you earn...

I think you should stop comparing your earnings with others. In a stake weight based system, that's the best way to go crazy

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Don't get smart with me. I'm simply pointing out the flaws in this logic using real world scenarios.

I'm not comparing, I'm just showing you what's happening.

According to your logic, you should be earning less here, so don't start telling me to leave. I've been here a long time. I've been through it all. Highs and lows. I've been grateful for everything and there's proof of that all over my blog.

Don't come at me like that. There's no point to it.

Your example shows that rewarding users based on view would be fairer, which is my point. What flaws are you refering to?

You weren't impressed the moment I said I should get more. You lashed out. Therefore, it's quite possible, changing something won't be the solution to these problems.

The point of such site would be to remove the unfairness perception that users have on steemit.

Real world scenario:

People on Youtube don't like it when others earn more than they do. They work hard too, and others earn more.

People on the job. Same thing. People quit their jobs because someone else got a raise. Know what I mean? Plenty of jealousy in the workforce.

Changing things won't take this problem away. It's actually not a problem. It's normal for people to feel like they deserve more than others. That's life.

No matter what systems are in place, we will still see people thinking it's unfair.

Catering to those people rather than the hard workers who don't mind starting at the bottom and working their way up is always a step in the wrong direction.

I think you are reading a little too deep into this. I'm just proposing an alternative voting model. There will be many of these in the future simply because the one we have today is far from optimal.

Catering to those people rather than the hard workers who don't mind starting at the bottom and working their way up is always a step in the wrong direction.

That's where you lost me...

I have experience being in charge of staff. A large staff. Many people from all walks of life.

If you cater to those who consistently find things to be unfair, all you're left with are people who will consistently find things to be unfair. It doesn't matter what you change, they're just wired to see things as unfair. That's who they are. That's what they'll be. They're dependent on others to take care of their needs.

It's typically better for business when you embrace those who can start at the bottom, take anything life throws their way, climb the ladder, and become good at what they do. Those are strong individuals and they are good to have around. If they see a challenge, they won't back down. If they see a problem, they'll want to help fix it, rather than leaving it up to someone else.

That's all I meant by that.

I don't disagree. But I don't understand why you assume that rewarding users based on views would change this dynamic. Hard work will still be recognized and people will still have to climb the ladder.
Also worth noting that my suggestion is not a modification to the steem code base, it's just an interface change.

You said it might help people feel as if things are more fair. I'm telling you: it doesn't matter what you change, those same people, after the change, will still think it's unfair.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. You know how it is, I'm sure.

A view BONUS would cater to all sides. Hard workers would get what they earned and others would see that they earned it. Sometimes we don't earn votes, but nobody would be able to say we didn't earn the bonus, so that actually makes it fair. Bonuses have proven to work in the past in the workforce. Everyone looks forward to them and they work as a team to acquire them. Those receiving high rewards for something like a self vote and low views would miss out on the money they like so much and might want to step up their game. I would also factor in the self vote and have a percentage of the bonus deducted because of the self vote. That could in turn allow those earning low rewards and high views to earn far more than someone who'd prefer to game the system. The view bonus turns into an incentive to perform well and the overall quality of content will increase. I would remove the chance of earning a bonus from any "promoted" post that used bots so people cannot cheat.

Promoted posts could then sit in the promoted section, but banners could be placed on blogs. Now we have real ads and people are not being misled to vote for advertisements and real content where it belongs, hopefully collecting views. Clicking the banner inside the post leads to the promotion. That click could double as a vote for the post and that's how people generate ad revenue from promotions here. The view bonus for promotions then gets dispersed evenly to those who helped drive traffic to the promotion. That's the second way having an ad helps generate revenue to the blogger.

Now we have a complete system where votes work as likes and pay bloggers, views earn a bonus, clicking an ad gives the blogger a vote(because people click links and forget to vote quite often) along with a bonus of ad revenue. Those paying to advertise is where the money comes from for that bonus.

That's one way to balance things and make it "fair". Multiple ways to earn all in one and if you still can't earn, those folks must be doing something wrong and will just have to deal with it.

Unfairness is not the only issue with current voting model, content discovery/curation is also a big one.

See above. People could advertise themselves and their content on blogs, increasing their exposure, and everyone makes money.