What the fuck is up

in #whatup8 days ago

Whatsup guys?

I'm not one to usually point at others and mock or whatever, but I randomly remembered a user I had gotten annoyed at during the hive fork and had muted, so curiosity got the best of me so I went to check if she was still active since I have her muted.

And usually it wouldn't be a big thing, but the irony of her last post being about "using hive or x - why not both" or something of the likes where she tried to connect with other x users, presumably now looking back to get a "jumpstart" or whatever given that that was her last post here to try and earn on X considering it was around that time they introduced earnings.

Either way, she was making good rewards here, her last 7-10 posts average about $40 at a quick glance back at early 2024 hive prices.

Now I don't know the reasons she left, could be personal/other, so I'm not going to assume that she left in hopes for making the bigger Elon bucks, but it got me to thinking how majority of users there are attempting to get up there thinking they're all special and deserve to be in the earners club.

I checked some of her tweets and honestly, impression-wise it wasn't even that impressive if she's been active ever since, I do quite okay there even though I'm barely active so thought I'd share my stats to give you an idea of what you need to be able to earn the minimum amount.

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Even with that spike in march, I'm still at only 110k impressions within 3 months.

The minimum amount required?

5 million.

Worst part is that this has been increased at one point because bots/farmers were getting too much of the ad revenue split compared to genuine accounts - so what's to say they're not going to push it further eventually as the bots/farmers catch up again and again and again. Especially now with AI it's going to be difficult to distinguish who's real and isn't.

To willingly give up decentralized social media, even if you only make $5 a day here or $1 for 0 for 2+ years in hopes to once hit a needle in a haystack where one of your tweets explodes and you try to retain as many followers as possible from there and hope it opens up continuous earning opportunities while someone on the deciding seat can just click a button to kill your account just because he may not like you.

This is absurd to me.

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made this meme earlier in a snap.

Everyone's trying to grab for that golden ticket to earn while everyone's thinking they're special and not the 99.9% who will never earn anything.

Think about it.

I've thought about it.

"My hive following can give me a boost on x to get past the 5m impressions - easy"
"I can upvote people on hive who engage with me on x"
"I can delegate to people on hive to specifically engage with me on x"

but is it fucking worth it? I don't think so, because in the end you will still end up the 99.9% once they move the goalpost.

Most of us aren't that special and that's okay, you need extreme luck to make it on other socials along with hard work along with dedication and heavy investment of time and effort to make something as a normal person who isn't all that special.

That's what I liked about hive and how it trickles down and creates curators of all of us who then create more curators.

I know it's hard to see it at prices like these where most minnows can't vote a comment past the dust threshold and dolphins feel like eels, but that can change in a heartbeat.

We saw a 50% pump followed by a dump shortly after just a few days ago.

What's a 5000% pump in a month. It's not unheard of, it's not an impossibility, it's not too crazy to think that once the dice rolls and lands on hive we may get back to what we've been and see everyone coming back to the platform that rewards anyone and everyone for just for being anyone.

sorry for the clickbaity title, I don't swear in titles too often, but generally i do like swearing as a fucking form of expression

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I've read because of the title but I'm like, I've been here since 2023 and why I feel like this platform is more of my diary not earning site. Haha

Actually, we are the same 😅. I am not yet taking things seriously, but I have been studying its highs and lows lately, quite interesting, tho'.

I had my share of earnings already actually when it wasn't this dip, I cashed out.

Lately though, I more like into vesting. I want to grow the amount passively.

Soo cool 😎 i need to learn from you.

I know right, our situation here seems hopeless, no matter how hard we work 🥺

But Binance now is banned so I'll think it's a force saving for me haha

No bueno! samedt, let's just save memories and money 🤑💰😅 and be patient.

Yep, same lol. I feel like the earning aspect is a minor bonus to a blog that nobody else can just nuke randomly on me lol.

Indeed. Haha
I might read what I've written if I can barely get out of the house in few years and say,
"Ah, I live a life, even documented it."

And no one erased it. Still available.😊

That’s it! This is a good kind of philosophy for our network! For me, it works as a motivation to write. I created an incredible habit of writing every single day, and all of that thanks to Hive. It’s been almost 5 years and more than 1,500 posts already. I’m sure I developed my creative writing a lot during this period. Stay strong, and one day good things will happen :)

😮😳
That's so awesome. I just write when I get overwhelmed of my thoughts of plans, past mistakes and if I did better, or worst. It helps me drop the unnecessary burdens in my head to keep it together.

This is the best place to drop my thoughts and read them again after few years.

Thank you for the encouragement.😊

Keeping the HIVE on you also has a very long-term advantage. But not everyone decides to do it.

For example, I have never withdrawn 1% of what I have, and if I had because I would have thought something else would be more lucrative, I would probably be in the same position as I am now. Simply because these markets go par on par...

In the past, using something to take profits completely moved me away from why I was doing it in the first place.

For example, people play games on their phones to get cents... and sometimes it takes like days to get 1 dollar paid for their PayPal wallet (and yes, I have done it too). But why do they do it? Not for the fun I am sure, but just because of the grind.

And they totally forget! What if instead of playing them, you are "making them"! Or selling them... or marketing them... or explaining how to use something that allows you to make these games?

It looks very "hard"... but currently that is changing (if not already changed). So the excuse is not there anymore.

Anyhow, my point is... earning can't be something everyone does, otherwise, where is the value? it has to be unique... it has to be different...

Even if many don't do it, you can still win more here than on X... (for example).

being social helps get you discovered, the main difference here is that curators are incentivized to spread inflation around with others to grow the network

(except for some greedy ones who just share it with a few/themselves through some schemes)

just cause of this comment for instance I went and checked out your profile and gave your latest post a vote!

I might just vote for her too 😁

Aww. Thank you.
I'm tired of Ph news and commentary on FB so I got myself a read here and wow, I got so much upvotes. It so happen I published one.😮

You're awesome!😎

I enjoyed this post. I think that engagement matters. People may think X posts will receive more engagement, and decide to focus their energy there. We can all do more engagement on Hive to make a small difference.

i honestly wish a time's gonna come soon enough where I don't have so many things to do and can go back to just looking for posts to curate and engage with like the good old 2016 days

Last year, I ventured into YouTube creating videos with artificial intelligence. It was an incredible and terrible experience at the same time. I managed to make some money during that period, around $1,500 per month for a few months. Nice, considering I spent only about 3 or 4 hours a day creating videos, so it was worth it, especially when you multiply every dollar earned by 5 compared to the Brazilian real here in Brazil...

Anyway, YouTube changed its guidelines or became stricter, whatever, and demonetized thousands of channels. I was one of those people who had their channel demonetized overnight, without any prior warning. The thing is, I already imagined that this could happen, it was way too easy...

But anyway, along with those channels, many channels from people who didn’t even use artificial intelligence were also demonetized. Some kind of automated system used to ban those channels probably caught those guys too. Some managed to get their channels back, others didn’t... Unfair? Maybe. But the big point is: nothing is guaranteed on Web2, because the house belongs to them, and so do the rules. In the end, you are nothing...

yeah I've heard many horror stories on automated bans, worst part is that only the big channels can make enough noise to be heard on other socials to push youtube to take a look manually while the smaller ones just die out in silence

I saw that too. Those who are still relevant can still be heard if they shout loud enough. But the others... I can only imagine how much work was thrown down the drain. It hurts just thinking about it...

Everyone is trying to find the easiest way to make some money, and everyone ends up on the easiest way, meaning that it is no longer possible. the 99.9% are on all the monetized platforms like that - earning nothing, despite a lot of effort. Look at only fans where the average is now under $100 a month, for people to absolutely debase themselves - and that average is heavily skewed by the few who get a million. Snapchat and Instagram are the same.

When everyone can do it, it becomes worthless.

Haha! Okay, I really find this very entertaining because I can also see some of this stuff, and you know this place really well. TBH, just don’t care if they don’t because you really can’t please everyone. Keep doing what you’re good at, hard work pays off in the end. You’ve been great to everyone and amazing. Enjoy the rest of your day!

People think x could give more income than hives, this is a big mistake, hive is money for free only for your know how, but people have the mistakes, about see the big users and see their earnings, and their hopes are in this line.

People do not see that a post with 0.40 hives are some earn more profitable than x but this know how only it building with the time.
We need to continued building slowly slowly.
Waiting for the pump of 5000%

agree on most points but pls for the love of god stop saying hives xD

🤣🤣🤣

Ohhh sorry maybe my corrector in the keyboard do it by myself, i am apologize about this.
Hive i will try to do not confuses the singular with the plural word.

Hi @galberto,I was looking for your posts, and of course for you. I see you're doing well, that's enough for me. I was already missing you, my friend.

I still don't know why people leave this (Hive) platform. Tbh, being an average or maybe below-average, all it demands it some daily engagements and bit of consistency. This way one can earn way more than those platforms. The ugliest part about other platforms is that there is this AI/automated banning system, once you get banned, you are done for. Furthermore, the capitalist sharks out there aren't letting you get a bare drop easily. If she had been active since then, she would have been warning more only by curating others.

Well, after judging her decision, I am not going to judge anyone, anymore. Heheheh :)

Either way, she was making good rewards here, her last 7-10 posts average about $40 at a quick glance back at early 2024 hive prices.

I would say that $40 average is not just good. it is insanely good. I would be more than happy if I could earn 40 in a week...

At this point I have no hopes of getting any money from Twitter/ facebook/ instagram/ youtube. Those places are only good for watching funny animals in photos and videos. I think that for actually earning something Hive and even Ko-fi(despite me not earning anything there yet as well.) are much better. In Ko-fi I can get money if people buy me coffee, make commissioned pieces, sell pieces in my shop...Also if I would have like ten followers who would buy me coffee from time to time I would already be making decent money. on mainstream social media I would need thousands(tens of thousands?) followers and views just to get monetized. that is absurd. I believe that I have much better chance finding a several dozen decent size supporters/ followers on either Ko-fi or Hive than making a single eur on mainstream media...😛

X is just super famous and pays in $, so one thinks to get visibility there, then move to other places too like Instagram, monetize there too and spread everywhere... Also earn $ sounds more cool than hive, eth or sol... But it then becomes a work to keep up the engagement, the impressions, the lights on you, you can't have a week of break or you are fucked up, it's too stressful for most of the people, on the other hand here you just do what you want, daily, weekly etc... No pressure to be known forever

I am putting everything I earn on Hive into my Hive power, that is how I got to almost 40k Hive power. I might even throw some pocket change at it if it drops further. Not much, just a few hundred bucks here and there, I have done it before. What I like about Hive is that it lets you earn with or without investment and you don't have to be a professional content creator.

yeah, the earning also kind of offsets your investment over time, like, if you buy doge and it dumps, you just lost that amount based on how much it dumped, here you can "earn it back" with time and be back to "even", as long as price holds that is, but eventually there's going to be a bottom on that price decline as well no matter how much people try and milk the DHF, etc

X is a bigger playground, but also very different. When it comes to earnings, it's very difficult to make a living there. I know a lot of influencers, with good stats and they are earning pocket money, compared to what they are making by trading.

If you compare the possibilities we have here, with X, you need to be delusional to bet on X. No offense.

Even with prices as low as they are now, if she had kept things going on Hive she would've been far better off even if she cashed out everything.

The grass is always greener, right?

!BBH
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!ALIVE

Twitter/X used to be a phenomenal advertising platform when used in conjunction with Facebook ads. It was a highly sophisticated move, but you could get granular data and set up powerful ads. However, the platform has lost its mojo a long time ago and with bots dominating the play, it has become a typical web2 conundrum.

I might pull some money out here and there, but I am still long on HIVE. I've never powered down that I can remember. It's just a good place with mostly decent people :)

I have tried multiple times to show people on X...

I think what they need to see is what it looks like. People are crazy lazy... and if they don't see from start to end how it really works, they are just not curious enough. Just because all they do is what the masses do. So, without any examples, they don't believe.


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I think we put too much energy in some things that end up just not worth it. We should better focus on what's worth and works and Hive is still one of the social media options that delivers, even with its current challenges. And if things improve, so much for the better.

La distribución de recompensas no es justa. Que acceder a recompensas sea gratis es muy diferente a que sean justas.

In the web2 attention economy, you need to play the game of algorithm appeal and volume of views to even have a chance at pennies. It's sad, really.

only 5 million? :P

wow, good luck to her..

This was an interesting read, I like how you shifted the story and showed how cool Hive is ❤️

I haven't used X for a while. Got annoyed with all the rage bait stuff that people post just to get some attention that they might not even believe in, but it is what gets them views.

the two most wonderful words in the english language that we should use more are:

FUCK
and
CUNT

put them together and the world can't handle it, except great britain and australia :D

yeah I guess we are just a bunch of cunts. fuck it

No idea why she left Hive, but I do know at one point she was dealing with her terminally ill husband and then subsequent to his death job changes/relocation.

yeah as i said i didn't wanna dig into too much on the specifics but it's not a singular case, many have done the same

I'd rather stay here, it's not a toxic cesspool.

I completely understand what you're saying. It seems illogical to me that anyone wouldn't see Hive's great potential. And beyond the rewards, it's great to be here.

One of the reasons why Hive is great is because I already have my own meme.
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