I think that says a lot when the former free speech platform steemit decides to ban the firstamendment. I criticized them as best as I legally could, and well my account over at steemit has been hidden after posting a response to steemitblog which can be seen below.
The zzan witnesses and Justin Sun, as expected, has engaged in a lot of communist propaganda right out of the playbook of rules for radicals. They falsely claim they and their families were threatened, but when pressed they offer no evidence. Since they are an anonymous group, any threats would literally be on the block chain-there are none.
As justin sun was literally switching out the zzan criminal syndicate group's witnesses, justin sun was crying on twitter that he was going to the police saying hive stole money from them. Apparently he thinks he was entitled to the hive air drop, and their focus seems to be in the mechanics of how the air drop was done. I don't think I know the exact mechanics either, but I could take an educated guess.
But let's suppose:
I decide to make a fork of steem and call the new coins firstamendment (first, fp, fbd) to a close group of 10 people, and zero all other balances. Justin sun would be running to the police claiming that I stole millions of dollars from him/steemit.
I am thinking about doing an open records request at the SF pd, or a FOIA request with the USDOJ to see if the criminal really did contact law enforcement. Maybe he went to the chinese authorities, because any competent law enforcement officer would have shot the POC dead on the spot....What? its what our american police do best to earn their free administrative vacation. If no one likes me saying that, then start to hold our police officers accountable.
Anyways, shortly after posting the below to the steemit board I got hidden. Feel free to keep spreading it across steem. The Steemit image server seems to be down (403 errors), so it had no images. Feel free to let the FBI know these details,
and the SF police. It's time to remove Justin Sun from society.
How many years do you criminals at steemit and tron plan to serve in prison for your acts of theft.
https://steemd.com/tx/eacbedc76fa053abae7fc7696fc3f54526962165
Don't try to deny it you knew about it as you did on twitter.
https://steemd.com/@dev365
http://archive.is/k0qv2
And don't try to deny your blatant acts of fraud and your outright act of theft.
@Justinsunsteemit witness voting policy
https://steemit.com/hive-101145/@sct/proxy-token-proxy-token-witness-voting-policy
My idea came from @proxy.token.
I am Justin Sun and I bought 70 million STEEM with my hard earned money. When I hodl them, I want to vote for witnesses with good hearts who truly care about our community. Also they have to be a true believer of the sanctity of private property and love our community!
So here we go!
The witnesses I vote for need to upgrade to 22.5 hard fork.
Request opinion to witnesses
- Are you willing to believe the sanctity of private property or do you just want to take innocent people’s hard earned money under toxic “consensus”?
- Are you willing to shorten the SP power-down period to 3-7 days from the current period?
- Are you willing to remove the down-voting policy of STEEM blockchain?
- Are you willing to introduce smart contracts into the STEEM block chain?
- Are you willing to keep a good relationship with prestigious exchanges and increase our STEEM token value or do you just want to fuck them?
- Are you willing to protect the rights of the community members or do you just want to hurt and destroy those you disagree with?
- Are you willing to support Steemit, Inc. in accomplishing their job to increase our token value or do you just want to stab them in the back for your own interest?
- Are you willing to increase STEEM token value that benefits the whole community or do you only care about your own interest and don’t give a fuck about the real community?
- Are you willing to welcome new investors in the future and include everyone into our community or do you just want to fuck those new investors, freeze their investment and kick them out?
- Are you willing to always stick to the truth or will you just spread rumors to generate misunderstandings in the community and poison our community culture?
- Do you like Justin Sun or you just want to fuck him?
We will vote for the witnesses after reviewing witnesses' public answers to the above questions ASAP!
Do you have a dream to become one of the Top20 Witnesses? This is your chance!"
https://steemd.com/tx/546471d9d0eafc22a1291a8c92cf4f1ac00d610e
http://archive.is/pM2Gj
#STEEM has successfully defeated the hackers & all funds are super #SAFU. @SteemNetwork and @steemit community is now stronger than ever since we united & solved the difficulties! Full details below👇
as an added bonus this is a hidden response to the @triple.aaa after he also claims threats made him resign. It wasn't threats forcing him or @glory7 to resign as they claim; they wanted to try to wash their hands at the last minute by replacing themselves with new zzan group witnesses instantly given witness power by justin sun himself and trying to play the sympathy cards-originally citing personal reasons. But you can observe from the archived dev365 account, and other witness statements that the bulk of the zzan witnesses were playing musical chairs.
The west is quite familiar with the tactics of Saul Alinski and the socialist left screaming they were threatened to gain sympathy and demonize their opponents. Even when they did receive some kind of threat, it was they who sent it. We been dealing with propaganda from justin sun for 3 months now.
In your quest for power and money, you have failed to use reason and violated the natural rights of others and violated your own oath. Not that the oath of a communist bandit is worth anything. But even if you were threatened, you were literally picking peoples pockets to the tune of 5 millions dollars. They not only would have a right to threaten you, but in many jurisdictions they would have the right to kill you without warning in the defense of their natural rights. Brinks trucks have armed guards for a reason, to shoot criminals such as like yourself.
You can't go around accusing people of being criminals to justify you stealing their stuff. That just makes you the criminals. Throughout much of the history of the world, where there is a civil judiciary, the punishment would be proportional and there is the expectation of a neutral judge and jury. Though you have much butt hurt because you lost your chance at a lucrative air drop when you betrayed the steem community, the hive community never took anything from you; You still have your steem. You never had a claim. You abused the power that Justin Sun Gave you, and resorted to outright theft rather than accept responsibility for your bad decisions-that has followed you over the months. You targeted people because of their wealth, you targeted people because of their ideas, you targeted them because they didn't use the POS feature or the chain to your liking, you targeted people because your criminal syndication have proven to be a complete failure at trying to build a community. Regardless of your motive, you are still a theif. What good is a social media platform where everone has to think the same thing, and who will invest in a block chain when the governance will steal the investors money. Everything about you and the zzan community is a cancer. And when Glory7 said he was the most reasonable member of the zzan crew, it is just further evidence that this chain has no future.
If you were really scared, you might have installed a previous HF. You might have apologized for your lies, your thefts, your schemes, your treachery. If you do have something to fear, it is not from anyone from hive who since they are literally under a corona quarentine. The person you would most likely fear is Justin Sun himself, or the absence of his money. You will have the whole crypto world hating your guts in a matter of hours. But worse, you might have the American Police hunting you down soon.
Oh, and we do know that you haven't really quit. You and your team of centralized south korean criminals are just playing musical chairs because you are in too deep with your fraudulent activities. You have to, ironically, make it look like you had no part of it. That it was the magical new accounts that have sprung up, with full justin sun support, while he publicly denied that he or steemit inc knows anything about it. They were not the accounts of his old sock puppets, they were new accounts of the zzan criminal syndicate. Nothing has changed at all. And supposing you were really kicked from the group, remember Justin sun is denying everything....and the world has your interview. He threw you under the bus as he hoped to get away with his crimes.
Don't worry Triple.aaa about threats on the internet, for our federal police officers will probably be hunting you and your team down. You are under US jurisdiction. To be a federal officer, they have been the elites in the states. American law enforcement are unaccountable trained killbots obsessed with fire arms, trained specifically in shooting to kill, and will look for any excuse to kill unarmed people of color to international condemnation. Our police are force more dangerous than anything Chinese police could ever think about doing. We Americans can't stop them, our congress and president can't stop them, the UN can't stop them, and our supreme court and the lower courts will give them full immunity. It's living a video game to many of them, with paid administrative vacations for every kill. It was your decision to engage in theft and fraudulent practices,and you have finally forced us to petition for their involvement. You invited your worst nightmare to your door steps, so please go on about these imaginary and threats over the internet when everyone is under lockdown. Enjoy looking over your shoulder, but you can rest easy knowing it will probably be in the form of a no knock raid before dawn some morning complete with flash bang grenades. They really don't care where-or who-they toss those things at, and they still get immunity just as long as they deny intent to harm.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-11th-circuit/1768480.html . Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Might I suggest turning yourself into the Korean Authorities, accept extradition in the United states, and work with federal prosecutors and testify against Justin Sun. Ask for witness protection if you must, or maybe ask permission to work as a coder with the FBI to try to avoid prison completely.
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Your point is well taken yet is it fair to transfer to the new chain all accounts, all the content created by those accounts which brings value to the chain yet not bring a fork of their tokens? There is not a credible blockchain fork known to me that has not kept the integrity of the chain up to the point when the fork kicks in. Even Etherium which intended to remove the creation of a smart contract from the new chain did so by rolling back time to moments prior to the smart contract's creation keeping all historical transactions of the chain intact.
Sure 10 of your friends playing with your own little chain, who cares. Yet if you plan on competing with the chain you are forking from on the scale of BTC/BCH then you should at least have the decency of removing all traces of those you do not want to include in your fake history of the chain.... or start afresh with a brand new chain which has no history. Oh yeah that would mean not bringing your stake along. Can't have that can we. 🙄
What?
What expectation of free stuff do you have? Did Bernie hurt you? You sound like you're under the influence of Stockholm Syndrome.
What would be even the point of making Hive to escape Sun's solitary despotic governance and then handing over Hive to Sun's solitary despotic governance, which recreating the founder's stake under Sun's control on Hive would do?
Sun bought Stinc, and a lot of Steem. The folks that made Hive basically said "I don't like you, and I'm going to go make my own token." They did. That's Hive. In what reality would it be a good idea to give your enemies your stuff?
Because it's not a good idea in this one.
Guess they did not like the folks on the resync blacklist as well. Well they liked their content that brings value to the HIVE chain and their account just not their tokens. You know, the folks like the Korean Whale that dared speak of dialogue between JS and the V.22.2 Cabal.
Your rational is delusional.
I note that you're at least consistent when you complain that reason is delusion.
I disagree.
If you wanted to build your own front end interface of of hive or steem (or a hybrid) and run ads on it then you could, and you don't have to share the ad revenue with the steem community. It is a public ledger, so the public owns it and each can do what they want with the public data. So long as the data is truly public, there is no reason to fully exclude a public ledger from any project an author wishes since it is public domain.
Anyone can have a copy of steem or hive and do as they wish with it, nothing stops you from being a witness, nothing stops you from having your own customized database of steem transactions for whatever purposes you like. And if you wanted to fork a new chain then you could. And when it comes down to forking a new chain, for what reasons would you fork? You can have your own coins on steem/hive, you can make your own steem/hive interface, the block chain can do far more than just text-but data itself.
Forking a chain could be a side interest, it could be for academic, educational, testing, or engineering purposes, it could be to keep out countries with adverse regulations, or limit it to a private group of people. A new chain gives the option for a new distribution, and this was one of the concerns I raised when Justin sun spoke about an Air drop of steem tron tokens. It needs not be 1 to 1. It could be based upon reputation, number of posts, how well you like someone, it could be 10 coins for every one, or adding a decimal place effectively giving the appearance of dividing the amount of steem by 10, or any mathematical function the author wished. It is a new fork, it is a new creation, it can be seeded and mechanized however the author wishes.
If I wanted it for myself and the 10 friends, or say 1000, or say 1 000 000, or the entire world except ugly bob then the forked chain isn't being made for these excluded people-giving the excluded people a balance is not excluding them. To achieve my forked chain I would be applying a concept that is in mind, and turning that concept into a marketable product. And so that Creation up to that point of a creating a fiduciary duty is mine and mine alone-nothing on it belongs to anyone else. If I determine that it isn't worth going forward, I can shut it off and trash it. No one was harmed, but Justin Sun would be running to the police claiming that I stole his crypto.
It sounds like your argument is that the witnesses should have rolled back before the exchange did the hack, then locked up all of Justin sun's funds again....but the Sybil attack threat still remained not to forget mentioning lost data as well. Doing what they did eliminated the threat completely, an no one was harmed.
Now supposing that someone seeded their forked chain, they got 20 witness servers up and running, and all the accounts that have keys are functioning, that still would not be sufficient to say that someone stole crypto if the network had never been on the internet. But Justin Sun would be running to the police saying that that particular someone stole his crypto.
Testing servers could be seeded and reset many different ways to try to finds bugs that have not surfaced yet. Although I haven't worked with steem/hive testing servers yet, they are up and running and being reset every hour, and any person with an account and RCs and the skills can use it-and I further suppose one could develop a steemit like front end that interacts with the test net so any account with RCs can use it. Yet, when the test servers are reset or re-seeded, no one, except Justin Sun, would run to the police screaming that that particular someone stole his crypto.
I am not going to toy with the exact precision of zeno's paradox to specify when a concept [the hive fork in this case] transmutes into property and fiduciary responsibilities, as it requires more technical expertise than I presently have and there are a minimum of 20 witness servers who may not be in sync to add more complexity to the equations. At a minimum they must be initially seeded as the creators sees fit, they must be out of the initial testing phase, and they must also be online, and there may be additional variance/flexibility based upon any white paper or other binding agreement. And even a plan to go live may initially fail thus killing that instance, and the planned fork goes back into a testing phase.
What you do protest is the initial seeding process-when it is still in a concept stage.
In contrast steem was seeded, and mined about 4 years ago, and has a psuedo proof of stake system they delude themselves calling a proof of brain following an specialized equation for distribution based upon block number and amount of steem vests. They are beyond the testing phase, they been live for 4 years, they are online.
Steem was property, there was a fiduciary duty of Justin Sun, Steemit, and the witnesses to protect that property. Instead they conspired to steal it. Even if you were to argue some "new steem" (the code name of hf23) theory that they destroyed the original chain and sprung up a new forked chain-that theory would still fail. They still had a fiduciary duty to protect the chain itself, and they instead stole users money.
At the present moment, the south korean community are in a blood lust proletariat uprising against the wealthy. There is something going on with China, South Korea, and Japan with a stable coin that has them awfully excited about crypto, and something about "the curve shall save the country". Things I hear briefly about that I haven't read in the news. It is possible they could be scheming to end the era where the dollar is the world reserve currency, but that would be speculation on my part.
For other users with this mentality, I have seen some who are spoilt little brats. Still there may be others who, given our post industrial economy, never produced a product from concept to commercialization. Concepts fail for a multitude of reasons, and it took Thomas Edison 1000 attempts to finally create a functioning light bulb. It takes over 10 years and a billion dollars to bring a product from a petri dish to FDA approval in the United states. Though it requires a bunch of acids, and perhaps bases as well, feel free to go down to the beach and make your own silicon wafer without using any technological product developed in the last 200 years. Then from there, develop a 555 timer out of that silicon wafer without using any technology-other than a multimeter-developed in the last 200 years. Things just don't magically exist, things usually come into existence because there is a need for something.
How many test chain trials do you think hive tried before they went live? How many times did they tested their scripts to try to minimize errors? If things happen as expected the first time-without so much as an off by one error- when doing something complex [without full automation] then you are pretty lucky.
The real steem community needed to get away from Justin Sun and his chicom sellouts, and they built hive to do just that. Under Justin Sun, Steem has certainly became a dumpster fire-and he and his allies had no one to blame except himself. And now, Justin Sun will end up in Prison-if he is lucky.
Thanks for your effort in your long winded reply. Hopefully it was cathartic for you or some others found it of interest as it was not read by me (beeme.icu brought it to my attention). That is because DPoS Governance has proven to be a failure, to me, due to the fact that the whole idea of a world active blockchain is to be a trusted ledger of historical transactions. If that is altered then it has failed in that regard. If one wants to be credible then roll back the clock or start afresh. Otherwise it is a fun thing for you and your (in this case) 10,000 active user friends to use. It is not to be taken seriously as a trusted blockchain. Neither is STEEM at this point if that makes you feel any better.
Just so you know, you are now muted on my end as the delusional rationalisations of hard core HIVE believers is getting tiring to me who is just here to power down, create a dooms day browser extension and move on.
Wishing you all the best. The muting is for my sanity and not meant as an insult to you.