Two days ago I came across a post on FB where an anonymous person was saying they worked in the healthcare system, and that the tests for COVID-19 weren't testing for COVID-19, but any strain of coronavirus. You can read this in the quote below.
Then I also came across an analysis video that allegedly looks at how the testing is being done, and what they are looking for: exosomes. But, exosomes are found in the body as a result of many conditions in the body, which include:
Is this is true, then there are so many false positives for alleged cases of COVID-19 out there.
Check out the video at the bottom of the post for yourself. I can't verify if this is true, but it could be, as what he is saying makes sense.
A healthcare workers says the tests dont test for COVID-19,a nd another analysis says the tests are testing for exosomes that can be due to many other reasons. What do you think?
From medical forum (Prefers to stay anonymous, presenting a different narrative than the official one can cost you a lot in the toxic environment these days.) I work in the healthcare field. Here's the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments. This is why you're hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That's because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues. The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome. The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues. The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense. And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load. If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you. If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis. And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen. Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus. They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common. There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time. All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease. Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die. You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on. Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist. Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically. Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people you are mislabelling – your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic.But you can stop people pointing this out in several ways.
- You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead.
- You can tell people that ‘minimizing’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers.
- You can talk crap about made up numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience.
- You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen.
Take these simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks.
They can not "confirm" something for which there is no accurate test.
I'd like to see papers describing the specific tests being used. Without that information we have no way of knowing what tests are being given. The reports that China in particular was producing as many as 7 false negatives before producing positive result for individuals clearly showing symptoms of covid-19 suggests the tests they were using (since they're not testing anymore, per reports out of China lately) were very specific, since tests for any coronavirus, or for exosomes which can be false positives for a broad spectrum of illnesses, would produce far too many positives instead.
There are specific tests I have read are used, antigen tests that reveal if the person has been exposed to SARS-cov-2 by looking for antibodies to it, or PCR tests, which seek viral RNA that is present in folks currently suffering multiplication of SARS-cov-2. I have not heard of an exosome test, or any others, however multiple tests of varying accuracy are in use today, and who is using what isn't commonly mentioned by any source.
Thanks!
Here is a source describing the kits and their methods of testing
Here is additional technical information on the RdRp gene PCR and sequencing assay which PHO Laboratory has adapted to be specific for COVID-19 virus detection
And, here are more details about the real-time PCR used at PHO Laboratory for COVID-19 testing.
Enjoy!
Yeah I don't know how accurate the claims of exosome testing are. I was sharing the video for consideration and thought about the whole issue. I would think they wouldn't be so inept, but then again... lol The PCR tests work correctly?
What I've read is that Germany, S. Korea, and some others have very accurate tests, but the CDC wanted to make it's own and profit therefrom, and it's efforts have been utterly inept.
WTH is the CDC, or any government agency, doing competing with private industry to begin with?
Thanks @krnel, great to see you posting on Hive and in Deep Dives!
Welcome back!
This topic hits the mark and is something that we're hearing more and more about. If you test positive for ANY corona virus, of which there are dozens of strains infecting millions yearly, what good is it? The only thing that does is inflate the number of cases.
On top of that we have the inflated mortality rates as @corbettreport covered recently about the number of people dying WITH corona virus but already having 2 or 3 or even more illnesses simultaneously.
There's an agenda a play here and while we're in panic, we have the biggest transfer of wealth signed and passed in a matter of days.
It's really incredible, when you step back and observe.
Yeah no kidding , it's shameful that the medical personal who concocted this are ok with it, like the CDC that officially put out a directive to label any death where COVID-19 has been detected as being a COVID-19 death. That's bypassing official autopsy procedures and inflating the count of legitimate COVID-19 deaths. And yes, the $7 trillion bailout for banksters and gamblers int he money magic game is a joke and theft and debt slavery for the masses, plus the masses only get a $2 trillion package split in various ways, and $1,200 check to each family or person is it? LOL. What a robbery. What a fraudulent world we live in, and most ppl just are clueless.
And yeah man, for sure, I'll do my best to bring content to the community and get some eye balls there, or more contributors ;)
Interesting! Thanks for sharing.
That video was fantastic, enjoyed every minute of it. Really puts things out there, particularly 5G that rolled out shortly before.
Welcome ;)
Te 5g angle i just view it as a dirty way to get it rolled out while ppl are distracted. Not the recent nonsense about no coronavirus, its 5g thats killing ppl :/
Here is what you would have to do to test for COVID-19
Take the sample,
kill everything,
separate out the DNA and RNA,
recombine and lengthen them,
put them through a DNA analyzer (one type uses a laser to burn each micro drop that is squeezed out of a tiny tube, and the reflected light from each burned piece gives you a letter code... sorta)
And then compare that DNA signature with that of COVID-19.
It just ain't happening.
So, most tests for viruses test for a lack of some chemical (what the virus ate) or the excess of some chemical (what the virus shat out)
And both of these are really poor, as there are millions of ways to get a false positive.
And false negatives can easily be gotten just by swabbing the wrong area.
That's not how PCR or antigen tests work. PCR tests use 'primers' which link to specific sequences present in the target RNA (SARS2, like all SARS and coronaviruses, uses a single strand of RNA), and then multiply those sequences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction) which are measured by pushing them through a gel with an electric charge (gel electrophoresis), which leaves bands on the gel media used identifying the size of the pieces, which is pretty specific regarding particular segments of DNA and RNA, and antigen tests which link to antibodies in the sample, that flouresce under UV light, revealing the presence of the antibodies.
I am unfamiliar specifically with exosome tests, or which specific primers are used by which specific PCR tests, which is a major question regarding this very issue. Are those primers specific to SARS2 or to all coronaviruses? Published papers on the specific tests in use by specific jurisdictions would effectively answer these questions, and I am not presently able to provide links to that specific research.
I wish I was better informed in that exact information. It is clearly necessary to ascertain the nature and reason we are under threat today. We are under threat. We need to know the specific threat, and as much as we can discover as to it's nature. Other than the pandemic, about which much is variably published and known, we certainly face food insecurity, even if only due to the Grand Solar Minimum ongoing that halved harvests last year, and possibly the most existential threat to everyone is the ubiquitous increasingly draconian imposition of martial law in every jurisdiction, from America to China. On top of that the increasingly fluid geopolitical contest continues to grow the threat of expanded military conflict, which could quickly change everything for the worse.
The continuing crusade for oil currently devastating the ME is clearly at risk of expanding, and it's probably remarkable it hasn't already spread to directly impact each and all of our homelands.
We do need to know specifically what is being tested for, and who is using what tests. We already know we're being corralled and effectively under house arrest, more and more censored and limited to 'official' propaganda sources of information, and should expect ongoing disruptions in critical supplies, including food.
We need to act to secure ourselves against known threats and ongoing harms, while seeking the necessary information to understand those we do not have the ability to rationally prepare for because we do not have good information on them.
Many research type people are saying that COVID-19 has parts from covid, SARs and HIV... so a PCR test would mostly test positive for any and all three tests.
BUT, this is really speculative as we seem to be dealing with at least three COVID viruses. COVID-19a,b,c
Unless COVID-19 really is worse for asians, as some have reported.
Anyway, the numbers i have seen for COVID-19 tests is you need at least four tests to get one pretty accurate answer. The tests are really that bad.
And i am dubious about anything that says "5 minute tests".
This is one of those cases where i can only wait and see.
Hindsight will be 20/20
i cannot really tell if this virus is all hype/psyop or real.
If people can get reinfected with COVID-19 as many have reported (so no antibodies.. or something completely different) then we are going to see the 2nd wave be really bad.
Not any well designed test. It doesn't have to select only from those parts in the various progenitor virii, but can home in on unique features of SARS2, which is what any competent manufacturer of PCR tests would do.
What seems to be going on is that any immunity only is developed in the young, and older folks aren't getting immunity. There's also been research that reveals SARS2 is able to infect nerve cells, and enter a state of dormancy, like herpes virii, from which, like herpes virii, it can re-emerge later.
In second waves of infection, folks that did not develop immunity from the first infection are nonetheless sensitized to the effects of the pathogen and all SARS vaccine trials (SARS-CoV-2 is a SARS virus) reveal increased morbidity and mortality upon infection after vaccination, so more harmful disease and more deaths the second time around. Estimates I've seen indicate up to 20% mortality from the second wave of infection for previously infected people.
The infection of nervous tissue also may explain why one of the symptoms of covid-19 is the sudden loss of the sense of smell, and why we see folks just suddenly keel over dead, as infection and destruction of autonomous nervous system mechanisms that control heartbeat and breathing would cause.
The chimeric nature of this pathogen is startlingly different from other coronavirii, and the research into what it actually is and causes, how it will behave, and much else is just beginning. Let's hope recent publications and papers seeking to downplay the severity of the initial flu-like symptoms is borne out as more data is gathered and considered.
Let's also hope persistent symptoms unlike anything other respiratory virii cause are shown to either have been misunderstandings or faulty data. The present suite of effects claimed includes AIDS, sudden death, infertility, no immunity and actual sensitization to re-infection, durable persistence in nerves and unpredictable re-emergence, and loss of sense of smell. I'd really rather deal with the flu.
Yeah it seems this is supposed to take a while, yet they "have" the test quickly.
david icke says the same thing - it is a total fraud
You got me thinking about it way more. I really think that there's something really fishy behind all this.
Sooner or later, we will know... As for now, I think we must do just what should keep us more safe against it.
Indeed there is ;)