The Code has been dropped for HF21
https://steemit.com/steemit/@steemitblog/steemit-update-hf21-testnet-sps-eip-rewards-api-smts
If you haven't been here for a hardfork or you were still new for the last one... the way it works is that once the code is released it is up to the top 20 witnesses mostly decide what to do with it.
They should test it, consider the impacts, prepare the community and make their views on the changes clear.
My opinion is it is too much for one HardFork and doesn't solve the root problems which are visibility and lack of any marketing, so I am not a huge fan. Each change has it's own risks and potential rewards so while I can certainly understand being for or against any of the changes, justifying doing them all at once is a hard pill for me to swallow. No one knows how it will turn out and I hope a lot of thought is put into how to support the community through any changes that are made.
Meanwhile, we still have PALNET which also has several of these features.
The announcement post is missing a lot of information. What percentages were used, where they decided to get the funding for SPS, what date they plan to drop, etc. stay tuned for more information.
So, if you have any questions or concerns let your witnesses know. As of today here is a list of those who will be making the decision.
01 yabapmatt
02 curie
03 blocktrades
04 gtg
05 roelandp
06 someguy123
07 good-karma
08 themarkymark
09 therealwolf
10 aggroed
11 cervantes
12 thecryptodrive
13 ocd-witness
14 timcliff
15 anyx
16 ausbitbank
17 smooth.witness
18 followbtcnews
19 lukestokes.mhth
20 clayop
This list of the top 20 is current as of this post, but they often juggle around some as the debates about the HF and what is included carry on.
On the day of the HF the way it works is once 17 of the top witnesses begin to run the new code it is considered an accepted HF.
There is no question this will be a major hardfork with major impacts to Steem. It is also contentious and controversial. I expect there will be some very interesting debates.
Hardfork or not, steem on!
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I've been railing against the 50/50 split since yesterday. I'm disappointed at the lack of coordination, transparency and unscientific nature of the whole thing. It's far too disjointed a process and I am not convinced the Top 20 witnesses are fit to sign off on such massive changes to the system.
lol
Indeed. LOL.
They haven't signed off yet.
Just keep asking questions, but let's try to help calm it down and discuss it.
I've raised many questions as to the methods by which they came to their conclusions and the answers were quite insufficient. I think it's time we got agitated and made witness changes.
How much testing has been done for all levels of steem users?
We all remember how much it impacted and drove away many small minnows and redfish, when HF20 Dropped.
in some ways, HF20 was the beginning of quite a downward spiral for Steemit
Yeah, I am highly concerned. No one cares. :) Hang on and stock up on Drama.
You should have @ each one, that way people could get to them easily to voice their disagreements with the HF.
This is a nightmare... I honestly now think Steemit is purposely hiding how bad the HF will be. Their blog post said nothing at all about what the actual changes will be and how it will affect authors and users.
I know there are two witnesses who were opposed to the HF, though they would go along with it since they would cease to be witnesses if they didn't adopt the HF software. If two more join with them, the HF will fail. We just need two more top 20 witnesses to step up and refuse to accept this disaster of a HF, just TWO MORE! We need to figure out who might be on the fence and lobby them directly to consider siding against HF21, those two who might still undecided could prevent this from happening if they join the two opposed.
Just 4 witnesses can stop this, and I know two would be willing to, so to those other undecided witnesses, please reconsider. You have the power to stop this nonsense from taking place, and hold the power to save Steem from eating itself. I urge you to reject HF21, and instead demand a smaller, more sensible approach to hardforking Steem.
#StopHF21 #MakeSteemGreatAgain
You are a sad strange little man... I’d downvote you but it wouldn’t mean much with my relatively low SP, so instead I’ll say this...
@whatsup, please downvote, preferably at 100% power, this sad, strange little man so he will actually feel punished for saying something stupid.
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!dramatoken
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Sad, sad, strange little man...
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You have
DRAMA!To view or trade
DRAMAgo to steem-engine.com.Anyone who is watching knows that they have not be carefully thought out for years by most of the witnesses. Just try asking a few questions.
I think it is reasonable to be for or against them. Personally, I just think it is too much in one fork even though I do think the changes might be good.
Let's see how things look on the testnet tomorrow, I think the main reason we don't want too many hardforks too often is due to exchanges having to update and people not being able to transfer to and from during the time.
If there is one thing I would be careful with it would be the curve so going to test it and think of ways it will be attempted to be abused or how it can be used for the greater good with things such as @ocdb for instance. The other two changes, 50/50 and downvote pool I am absolutely for and is something we have needed for a long time already. I do believe it is worth the risk compared to the content discovery and consequences of abusing bid bots and votetrading and haeining that have plagued us in forever, the sooner the better probably.
About your point in the post that what we need the most is marketing, I'm hopeful the SPS will be able to aid with that as well. As you might now I am not one to not want authors, especially deserving ones to earn less rewards but I believe that over time an with the effects of these changes they will be earning more in the end, especially in $ amount, hopefully.
Good advice
Sad, strange little man...
Oh also, this little "bundle of sticks" is proudly supporting Donald Tump for President in 2020! He will be re-elected for another 4 years, and he will Keep Making America Great! ;)
do you think that was maybe a little harsh?
wow, chill baah. That's a bit much.
Sometimes I agree with you, sometimes I disagree, but...
You are like foaming at the mouth, it isn't helping.
I am here for a bit over two years and always before and after a hardfork there been rivers of posts and comments flowing around about it... some pro some against the impacts of that particular hardfork will do!
I think we all should wait and see before we are jumping to a conclusion; already @steemitblog post generated 48 comments and this is just the begging... i think we are rushing we the conclusions and looks like is in our human nature of Steemians to love drama and create it.
Time will tell...
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Judging from the comments in steemitblog's update...we are about to experience a catastrophe(?)
I got this free from work
haha...yep
I'm just gonna lean back and watch the place burn for a few days.
With any luck it doesn't take too long until we find a new and reasonable equilibrium.
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That's a pretty good plan. Not sure when the actual codedrop will be, but when it comes we can re-evaluate . By We I mean every user, witness and stakeholder and decide if it was good or bad and react accordingly.
Can it be any worse than HF20?
Then again, it's SteemIt. Just when you think they have hit rock bottom, they prove you wrong by making things even worse (weary lol)
EDIT:
I just read the post you linked to, and even though I'm not a newcomer, I truly don't understand a word they are saying... if they're saying anything anyways. Aren't those informational posts meant to explain some things to the common users??
"When your communication causes more questions than answers was it communication at all?" :)
All I can say is that I think their motives are good, their understanding of the community and the impact he beyond low.
Spot on 👍
I completely agree with the last part, and maybe their motives are good, but the question is: from which perspective...
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Love reading and talking about hardforkes :D
I see that you also think that marketing is a huge issue that Steemit has.
More details would have been nice for sure. It screamed to me that they are fearful to share them to the broader community for fear of backlash. I am optimistic about the SPS. I hope it is successful.
Legit this update makes no sense to me or what actually is in it. The updated talked more about what is to come AFTER instead of what actually is going to happen in this hard fork.
I mean I like to consider myself at least half way decently smart but this update makes no sense to me on how it is going to effect the community, voting etc AT ALL!
Check @miniature-tiger's comment and start crying...
No way can this be real.. :(
"lack of any marketing"
I really think some agressive marketing would go a long way. People don't really know about this place (I have to explain the concept to someone every time I say "I'm on Steemit") so how do we expect to attract new users? There's money in the masses we just need to figure out a way to bring them here.
@artisticscreech
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While the 7s are a great promotion that in no way equals marketing. Don't get me wrong, it is a good promotion and increases brand recognition which would fall under marketing, but isn't marketing.
Marketing starts with a vision, a brand, a target audience and after many other things are defined moves into promotion and advertizing.
Don't get me wrong, I love that you guys are doing it, but it isn't really what I am talking about when I say marketing.
Yea its a cool engagement and awareness movement for steem and i hope you are participating? If you are not participating now, when you do, tag me😊. Its a start and it might develop to your definition of marketing with time.
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I've been liking the tweets.
Hell no I am not going to do push ups and record it. But I will cheer!
All the same ...good to cheer.
My guess it is fully implemented with-in 86 hours of the steemblog post.
I seriously don't even know if that is possible, but if it is going to go through, I hope it goes quickly
PLEASE don't let it be like last year when 90% of the users couldn't do anything on here.
Brace yourself it's likely to be messy. It will be important for it to have some time to brew though
I believe most steem members would think that hardfork is not needed now since we have Palnet and many other types of similar interfaces like Palent may appear to allow us to have multi-cryptocurrency earning simply by one post. Steemit does not need another hardfork to cripple the current state.
Hey @whatsup, did you see the Steem post (resteemed by a top witness) referring to Steem content creators who dislike the new changes in HF21 as Marxist?
Who Deserves More?
Or the post by an actual Top Witness that goes something to the effect of "How do you do, fellow kids?"
Do Content Creators Matter?
(I really love that the top comment on the post, voted 100% by said witness, immediately starts off by saying that content creators are "Entitled" and that the curation reward might should be 5/95, "Cause muh content curation maters!")
Not even close to what I actually said, but sure, go with that.
Edit: Okay, I did say 'all the content creators are Marxist' but it was clearly with reference to opinions on where value comes from and not based on whether people support/oppose the HF21. I oppose the HF21 and said so in the article you referenced.
Yes, I've seen both posts. :) I'm over it... they've made up their minds already.
Regarding the second post, I pretty much try to ignore anything said by that one.
At the end of the day, The math is math and with no plan to market and the terrible communication skills of the team, I suspect we will lose users.
Those at the top will feel a bit more in control... and then they will come up with more pet projects to do before Steem can be marketed.
realistically I love Steem and it is unlikely I quit, but I also would never encourage anyone to put money in it.
Answers aren't just black and white. I voted that comment by 100% as his opinion was a refreshing change from what I usually see as comments.
If you read my post, you know that I value content creators. But this ecosystem will not work if stakeholders (curators) are not treated properly.
And there is indeed a certain "entitlement" among some content creators when they write something along the lines of ".. but I deserve 75% of the reward pool. Otherwise, how should I pay my bills?". If a content creator on Steem can pay their bills with their author rewards, that's a small wonder but it's not a guarantee nor a standard and least of all very realistic for the majority.
In contrast, someone who invests money into STEEM or someone who is investing opportunity costs by being staked in STEEM and not selling it is usually not doing this for charity reason; rather seeking financial goals. So when that person feels that their investment isn't paying off, then we've got a problem. Which is what part of HF21 is trying to fix/improve.
I hate this time of the year... bbbrrr
If it happened what happened to the community
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Should I guess you are for these changes?
Actually my opinion is that we have had nearly a total misallocation of inflation, the reward pool.. as it is designed for distribution and growth and not ROI for stakeholders
I am not totally opposed to the changes at all. I am just opposed to a sudden change in direction and changing too much at once.
I don't care how perfectly the blockchain works if there is no one left to use it.