Also are you saying you are going to downvote people for upvoting comments?
Also you wrote you have a problem with him upvoting other people's comments... and then 1 of your next three examples was a POST?
Also I feel like he used his vote on those other comments as a voice as a response to what you did ...not to game the system.
So all in all I appreciate what you do in general... but this was plain sloppy (referring mostly to the comments aspect) and shouldn't be on trending... maybe even public at all.
Maybe we should implement the reward self-limitations system or allow users to specify they don't want their post on trending.
or allow users to specify they don't want their post on trending.
That's something I've been suggesting since the first week on Hive. It would make for more sense to keep our behind the scenes internal memos, public service announcements, platform politics, etc. out of the spotlight but still easily accessible. A place where we can air our grievances but not look like fools to people who might not completely understand why, whatever it is, even happens. Often these situations can be dramatic and even pointless, but they still need to happen or we can't solve problems.
The trending page is better suited for the best of the best at any given moment. Something that makes us all look good. A shining example and the end result of all the zaniness that takes place behind the scenes. That would be a far more professional approach.
I would have loved to have that option in place while attempting to address a few issues I've brought up recently. Not everything needs to be a spectacle.
Even if one could select from something like 'general' and that could potentially place it on trending if it does well, and the other option could be something like 'internal', and that could have it's own tab, work just like trending does now, make it just as accessible as trending is now. Create a culture early that knows the difference and know where to look for things like recent developments, internal news, platform politics, things like that. So it's not hidden, just sorted, and people still get to make their money if deserving. Two sorted sections like this also offers the creator of the content an increased chance of visibility since two forms of content that don't mix well wouldn't be competing with each other.
The reason he was upvoting comments as there is no competition for curation rewards.
Also I feel like he used his vote on those other comments as a voice as a response to what you did ...not to game the system.
That sounds logical but he started upvoting comments before this post and it's a pattern spammers use when they can't vote their posts as they don't think people will flag other people to remove the votes.
It sounds like pure assumptions. You are using your experience with other people to make an assumption... and assumptions are sometimes all we have to go on I understand that.
The reason he was upvoting comments as there is no competition for curation rewards.
How do you KNOW this? How can you be sure of it... as I stated sometimes all we have to go on is a feeling ... but throwing someone under the bus shouldn't be just a feeling.
I once got pulled over for what a cop thought were overly tinted windows (they weren't) he then asked if I had drugs I told him i didnt and I had never even done drugs or even drank in my life. He continued to try to figure out if I had drugs and I said didnt I just tell you I dont. Then he said yeah that's what the guy said last week then we found some. He treated me like a criminal because he had interactions with criminals. That's his world experience to interact with bad people but he couldn't just treat me that way because of these things. He needed a lot more to go on
Also @liondani i'm disapointed that you abused the crossposting feature voting the original and the cross-post... now we are gonna have to change it. It wasn't being abused much in practice... you were one of the only examples of abuse people brought to us and now people think we made a bad product (even though they lack or refuse to give us evidence) But it's fine because we are figuring out something better so such is life.
I am voting most of times for visibility! I think the solution to this "abuse" would be to give the option to vote on comments and posts just to boost visibility and Decline the rewards! A BOOST button that allows you to use your MAX voting power but has no impact on rewards but ONLY boost visibility (gets the comment higher, makes the post appear higher on trending etc.)!
The comment maker decides the beneficiaries so it's not like we can send your vote rewards to null. But you are talking about your 50%... I'm unaware of how that can be done.
I as well vote a lot in order to impact visibility or even ordering of comments
Also are you saying you are going to downvote people for upvoting comments?
Also you wrote you have a problem with him upvoting other people's comments... and then 1 of your next three examples was a POST?
Also I feel like he used his vote on those other comments as a voice as a response to what you did ...not to game the system.
So all in all I appreciate what you do in general... but this was plain sloppy (referring mostly to the comments aspect) and shouldn't be on trending... maybe even public at all.
Maybe we should implement the reward self-limitations system or allow users to specify they don't want their post on trending.
That's something I've been suggesting since the first week on Hive. It would make for more sense to keep our behind the scenes internal memos, public service announcements, platform politics, etc. out of the spotlight but still easily accessible. A place where we can air our grievances but not look like fools to people who might not completely understand why, whatever it is, even happens. Often these situations can be dramatic and even pointless, but they still need to happen or we can't solve problems.
The trending page is better suited for the best of the best at any given moment. Something that makes us all look good. A shining example and the end result of all the zaniness that takes place behind the scenes. That would be a far more professional approach.
I would have loved to have that option in place while attempting to address a few issues I've brought up recently. Not everything needs to be a spectacle.
Even if one could select from something like 'general' and that could potentially place it on trending if it does well, and the other option could be something like 'internal', and that could have it's own tab, work just like trending does now, make it just as accessible as trending is now. Create a culture early that knows the difference and know where to look for things like recent developments, internal news, platform politics, things like that. So it's not hidden, just sorted, and people still get to make their money if deserving. Two sorted sections like this also offers the creator of the content an increased chance of visibility since two forms of content that don't mix well wouldn't be competing with each other.
Sorry grabbed wrong one, was supposed to be this
The reason he was upvoting comments as there is no competition for curation rewards.
That sounds logical but he started upvoting comments before this post and it's a pattern spammers use when they can't vote their posts as they don't think people will flag other people to remove the votes.
It sounds like pure assumptions. You are using your experience with other people to make an assumption... and assumptions are sometimes all we have to go on I understand that.
How do you KNOW this? How can you be sure of it... as I stated sometimes all we have to go on is a feeling ... but throwing someone under the bus shouldn't be just a feeling.
I once got pulled over for what a cop thought were overly tinted windows (they weren't) he then asked if I had drugs I told him i didnt and I had never even done drugs or even drank in my life. He continued to try to figure out if I had drugs and I said didnt I just tell you I dont. Then he said yeah that's what the guy said last week then we found some. He treated me like a criminal because he had interactions with criminals. That's his world experience to interact with bad people but he couldn't just treat me that way because of these things. He needed a lot more to go on
Also @liondani i'm disapointed that you abused the crossposting feature voting the original and the cross-post... now we are gonna have to change it. It wasn't being abused much in practice... you were one of the only examples of abuse people brought to us and now people think we made a bad product (even though they lack or refuse to give us evidence) But it's fine because we are figuring out something better so such is life.
I am voting most of times for visibility! I think the solution to this "abuse" would be to give the option to vote on comments and posts just to boost visibility and Decline the rewards! A BOOST button that allows you to use your MAX voting power but has no impact on rewards but ONLY boost visibility (gets the comment higher, makes the post appear higher on trending etc.)!
That makes sense and I understand the desire.
The comment maker decides the beneficiaries so it's not like we can send your vote rewards to null. But you are talking about your 50%... I'm unaware of how that can be done.
I as well vote a lot in order to impact visibility or even ordering of comments
To be frank, this type of abuse was brought up as a conjecture when the feature rolled out.
I personally have found it useful in promoting some undervalued posts and direct them to relevant communities.
This is why we can't have good things.