My thoughts exactly. Glad to be on the same page.
Let's keep steemit clean. It is healthier this way...otherwise it will soon be transformed into something very dirty and common.
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My thoughts exactly. Glad to be on the same page.
Let's keep steemit clean. It is healthier this way...otherwise it will soon be transformed into something very dirty and common.
At risk of being flagged (yes they will try to silence your voice if they do not like what you say) all these bots that are cheating the system should be banned. The rules should be: One account per user and no bots so we can have a solid community. I literally have posts with hundredths of likes and comments that barely made a few cents. On the other hand, you see these so-called whales get hundreds of dollars with significant fewer likes. It doesn't make any sense. They are just damaging the platform and if you think about it, they make it unsustainable in the long run. Because obviously they are taking all the money and leave nothing to new users. Thus new users have no incentive to keep blogging since their post will get no money regardless of the number of likes they get. I hope these problems can get fixed because I really like Steemit
New slogan: Ban the bots!
I understand bots do useful things. And that bots aren't the core problem. But would it be so bad to ban bots? Then you can hire people to do the work themselves. Actual people. And maybe whales will hire minnows to do the work, giving minnows a way to make SBD and earn a greater stake in the platform.
What if all the bot owners power down, and there is no one to fund all this content?
Nobody can predict. Maybe influx of new users? Maybe drop in price of steem that allows others to buy more? Maybe steemit's brand value goes up, encouraging more people to use it? So many variables.
The problem is perceived unfair distribution of upvotes, leading to new users getting frustrated or simply dropping out. The goal is to keep whales and technically-savvy people from manipulating the system to their advantage. The intended result is a Steemit where rewards are distributed based on how much users like what authors post. Bots have value, certainly, but they also contribute to our problem, undermine our goals, and prevent us from getting the result we want. So, I’m advocating Steemit acknowledge this, accept a hard and risky decision to ban the bots, and hope that by staying true to the values we share and committing to the goals we share, Steemit will be better off for us having done so.
Who decided that is the goal? Why did they decide that is the goal.
I know you could read that in a snarky tone, but it wasn't meant to come across that way. Are you sure this vision is the accepted community vision? I don't see it that way, but that doesn't make me right and you wrong.
The vast majority of the community are in favor of getting rid of the bots. The only people who want to keep the status quo are the whales as Steemit has become their revenue generation cash cow. The basic principle of blockchain technology is to give power to the people. Therefore, I advocate to "BAN THE BOTS FROM STEEMIT"
How did you measure, "The vast majority of the community"?
I thought the basic principle of blockchain was to create a immutable record that can not easily be altered or tampered with?
Once again, it has a lot to do with us not creating a process for gathering consensus and many people having their own view of "What it is supposed to be".
Great Idea! Ban the bots. No more bots in Steemit!
My response to @whatsup in a side-chain of this thread. It got cut off, so I'm posting here. @whatsup said:
What if all the bot owners power down, and there is no one to fund all this content?
Here's my reply:
Nobody can predict. Maybe influx of new users? Maybe drop in price of steem that allows others to buy more? Maybe steemit's brand value goes up, encouraging more people to use it? So many variables.
The problem is perceived unfair distribution of upvotes, leading to new users getting frustrated or simply dropping out. The goal is to keep whales and technically-savvy people from manipulating the system to their advantage. The intended result is a Steemit where rewards are distributed based on how much users like what authors post. Bots have value, certainly, but they also contribute to our problem, undermine our goals, and prevent us from getting the result we want. So, I’m advocating Steemit acknowledge this, accept a hard and risky decision to ban the bots, and hope that by staying true to the values we share and committing to the goals we share, Steemit will be better off for us having done so.
They are taking away from post promotion too. Post promotion burns money to increase the price, but bid bots lowers the price by squirreling it away for itself.
Entiendo algo de ingles pero me quedo claro. Estas totalmente en lo cierto.
Couldn't agree more with you! Hope the rest of us stays true to ourselves. This platform is way much bigger than that..
That's why I am posting only my own work. As @stevekelly mentioned, it will not be sustainable on the long run with bots and those votes "enhancers" (me too I am puzzled when I see a post with 2-5 votes and over 30USD...)
I made a breakdown of how these bots work in my blog, check it out, also there is a new voting solution where you need to pass a quality test to avoid voting on spammers. Check smartsteem and the bots article. I agree with both of you though I feel forced to use them to avoid getting behind :(
I wrote an article about these bots. Some of them are really making millions for their creators. You can find the article here
https://steemit.com/steemit/@stevekelly/the-cryptocurrency-mining-bots-stealing-millions-for-their-creators
Thanks it summons up very well the essence of our discussion here!