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RE: WHY THE BEEF?? Just do what HAEJlN does!

in #abuse6 years ago

As far as I know @haejin came here as a newb, and grew his account from zero, without investing piles of cash. The growth of his account is thus organic, derived from his activities on Steemit alone.

While my account and many, many others, are also organic, @haejin is the only account to achieve substantial rewards that are on a par with whales. What I said was:

"...only example of organic growth and competition to the oligarchy..."

So, not just organic, but competitive with the whales for rewards. To be completely and demonstrably correct, I should add 'to my knowledge', because others may have achieved this feat that I am unaware of.

If you wish to actually prove a point, misconstruing my statements won't achieve that. Rather the reverse. If you continue to put words in my mouth, or take my remarks out of context, it will become apparent that you have no means of countering the content of my remarks except ad hominem attacks, which proves you wrong.

Don't prove yourself wrong.

"...his 25K of followers is only because he is hitting trending everyday ..."

Well, from what I've read of their remarks regarding the matter, they follow @haejin because they believe he is giving them good advice about crypto trading. I've never heard one of them say they followed him because he was trending, or they thought they'd get curation rewards.

When did they tell you that?

Are you perhaps putting words in their mouths as well? It seems that you may be experiencing some cognitive dissonance regarding your stance on @haejin. Cognitive dissonance is an indication that one is refusing to acknowledge facts in order to maintain a belief that is inconsistent with those facts.

It might be beneficial to you to take break and examine what you actually believe, and why my statements are causing you cognitive dissonance.

Also, you're working yourself up into an all caps lather. Better you just mute me than have a stroke, bro.

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Haejin has 74K followers on Twitter and 45K followers on Youtube. He joined both in 2012.

I know he was posting videos onto youtube prior to 5 months ago, but they have all been deleted, so I cannot see how many views he was getting there compared to now back in June of 2017 when he joined Steem.

It is my understanding, most of his early Steemit followers (10K plus) came over from Youtube. (and or Twitter)

To me, that is not a self-made steemian as much as a self made TWiTer or YouTuber that came over to Steemit. In that case, no different than JerryBainfield or DollarVigilante.

Also, all of his early posts were earning $5-$25, with an occasional $50 until RanchoRelax started upvoting him 100% x 10 per day.

There are 100's (if not thousands) of Steemians that consistently get $5-$25 per post, day in and day out. Where are their whales? If they had them, they would all be Steemit success stories too.

Haejin is not "nothing" but he is not 1000 times better than these other 100 or 500 or 1000 Steemians.

A 100% upvote arrangement that is utilized daily at the full 10 X upvote potential is "lucky" at best. Unusual to be sure. Suspect.. maybe. But in no way makes him someone that is "bucking the system" He is part of the system. He would have "bucked the system" if he was getting post rewards of $300 X 10 DAILY all from votes of Steemians with 25,000 SP and less. That would be something special.

Why do you think that so few whales are participating in the flag initiative?? If they were truly threatened or wanted that extra 5% then half or all would have joined in. It is because they are not feeling the hurt. Many of them also scam the system and so they aren't going to be the ones calling the kettle black. etc.

The 2 to 3 whales that ARE flagging.... are the good guys. They are those that DO upvote minnows REGULARLY. One can be a dick. THat is sure. But he is also one that has created more (tiny) dolphins (possibly) than few or any other whales. (i'm not talking about his 25 account bot army. Bernie has given out more big and small upvotes to regular minnow steemians than almost any other whale. He was doing it from the beginning. But don't force me to sing his praises, because I honestly don't like his vulgarity etc. But you want facts, there is one for you. Fact check it if you so desire.

No stroke here.
Thx.

"It is my understanding, most of his early Steemit followers (10K plus) came over from Youtube. (and or Twitter)..."

I was not aware of that, and I was wrong about his account growth being purely organic. I appreciate being apprised of the facts that change that particular aspect of the matter.

So, the model @haejin provides is less applicable, as most of us don't have dedicated followings we can drag onto Steemit from other platforms.

Nonetheless, the math regarding the rewards remains just as valid.

I reckon also that by providing this particular fact, you demonstrate that you have no data to back your statement that minnows are getting more than 1% of the rewards. If you did, you'd post that too. Instead of just admitting that, you continue to try to deflect the issue.

I've no further comments to make here.

Enjoy your day.