incorrect. the campaigns official statement VERY clearly states that we do not stand for the breaking of the NAP. We also state that if anyone of us breaks the NAP, we will subject to termination within the campaign.
as for doxxing... what doxxing? you see, kafka gave out bens work information so that people would get him fired. that's doxxing. kafka associated my real name against my consent on this platform. that's doxxing. you seem to not mind that.
if you mean what was ben up to... i don't know. but he gave no indication that he was going to doxx anyone. aquire the services of someone that basically would act as a private investigator, maybe. but then releasing that information on any platform to do harm to kafka (which is what doxxing is)... show me a screen shot or any other evidence that was going to happen. it wasn't.
you're questioning me about doxxing when there is no indication that ben was going to doxx anyone... and yet you watch kafka doxx two people and you just shrug your shoulders.
i feel you're less than sincere.
And as I stated multiple times now; the writer of the official statement supported a post that gave an argument that doxxing and hacking doesn't violate the NAP so how I'm so supposed to believe it's sincerity?
Kafka is not asking me to vote for him and as I said before I don't like Kafka. Not to mention that since your campaign site doesn't have any privacy statement (that I can find, if you could point me to it that would be very helpful) your campaign could theoretically release any of your past supporters information.
Remember when I said I would denounce the alleged behavior if this was me. This is why.
The screenshots that are shown show at the very least show the hacker was trying to find where Kafka was located. Is there a good reason why Ben would need to know where Kafka lives? Since Ben initiated contact, never questions why he would need to know where kafka lives, responds with "your the best" when the hacker says he found a licence plate, texts "God damn I fucking hate that guy" and won't even take time defend himself.
What am I supposed to believe he was going to use this info for?
The hacker is giving an allegation that Ben was trying to doxx Kafka. So there's a witness. If Ben were to speak up then maybe it could be a he said/ she said type situation but that's not happening is it?
Tell me you said multiple times you don't know the full story. Why are you so set on defending someone who won't defend themselves? All I asked your campaign to do was give a better statement.
I've went out of my way to give you a way to salvage your campaign but instead you chose to argue with me and defend the screenshots when I wasn't even arguing about them.
Wow. Youre either trolling or incapable of understanding.
The campaign has nothing to do with all of this.
That's it.
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Sometimes, you work for a campaign in order to appropriate its capabilities, or its people. Other times, you do it to liquidate, and flush a bunch of garbage down the toilet. I don't care who your family is, who you know, how much money you have, if you aren't a true professional, or are ethically questionable, I wouldn’t want you working for me. Go clean the sewer. The fact that Adam refuses to address or denounce Ben is a testament to his TRUE character and what his TRUE intentions are. I’m going to assume he’s financially motivated because that was the reason he wanted Graham Smith gone.
In the screenshots show Ben allegedlly giving a link that calls out Adam and says "we've got a troll and he's really fucking with our money" so he was ethier doing this for the campaign without anyone's knowledge in which case you should call out the behavior to stop any would be fan from doing this again or he was told to do this by another person in the campaign.
Sweetie, if you think I'm trolling good luck dealing with the actual trolls on campaign trail.
I told you, @dfree. Pointless to try and have a logical argument with individuals completely unconcerned with understanding.
And now my self-defensive asking of questions and actions to share already openly public info about Ben in the interest of getting answers are “doxxing,” and I am the bad guy, because, magically, we should just ignore the actual conversation that was presented in screenshot and video form. When in doubt, blame the victim of the crime attempted.
These guys are in direct contact with Farmer and Adam, and are waiting for me to totally lose my temper. Guarantee it. Not gonna happen. If they were a bit more capable and coherent, it might work. But as you can tell from the comments section here, they just keep tripping over themselves, and no one is buying it but them.
The infosec professional is also open and available for question on Twitter now, and will be here soon. Why he refuses to question them and address them directly is telling.
It’s still not enough for them, because they have no interest in understanding, but in conflation and muddying the waters.