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RE: True Freedom Comes With Unconditional Basic Income

in #basicincome8 years ago

Taxation isn't theft. I realize you fundamentally disagree with statement, despite thieves not being known for stealing 20% of the contents of someone's wallet and then giving them in exchange a huge number of goods and services worth far more than what was in their wallet in return. However let's assume it's indeed theft, and as you argue, theft is wrong.

Okay, so is there anything more wrong than theft of property? Is murder for example worse than theft? If you had some food that someone needed to not die, and you had plenty of food, is it more wrong for that person to take a fraction of your food to not die, or is it more wrong for you to watch them die?

I think there are a whole lot of things that we can consider immoral in this world, and some are more immoral than others. I think this whole fundamentalist "taxation is theft" meme is just absurd, but even if we agree on its validity, I value human life far more than property, and I think killing someone is a whole lot worse than having a fraction of your money taken to prevent death.

I also think that if we're going to tax people, we should choose the form of tax that makes the most sense (not income tax), and it should be used in a way that involves the most freedom and the least government.

Taxation is not going anywhere. No democracy is going to vote for having everything government provides to them taken away. People are not going to vote to eliminate their health care, their pensions, their schools, their military, their fire departments, their police forces, their roads, and everything else. However, taxation itself can be done in better ways, and what it pays to provide can be done in better ways.

I'd rather fight for a better society, than for an imaginary fantasy.

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so MANY strawmen...where to start.
so I won't.
I'll just debunk your first falsehood.
theft is the taking of another person's property or services without that person's permission

that describes taxation perfectly. The reason is irrelevant.