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There are plenty of votes where they payout an assload and examples where they don't.

I have to see that yet and I am monitoring steemitbottracker as much as I possibly can. It is really impossible to get these times unless you are lucky, you monitor bids almost all day long or you have data from the blockchain on the best times for profitable bidding.

If you have such data, I would love to have it please. LOL

Thanks :)

I have yet to see that, too, except in some very, very rare cases cited in little more than rumors from the bot-owners / developers themselves. You and I are in total agreement that bid-bots are a waste of time and certainly a waste of money for the "user." One bad experience was all it took ... and my husband and I now totally avoid them. You not only have to do a ton of "calculations" to time your bid "correctly" -- you have to be very, very lucky to boot. It's worse than the tables in Vegas where they at least try to pay out enough to keep people encouraged. Here, they don't even put in that effort. Bid-bots are a terrific boon to the owners and developers. They are suckers' game for anyone else.

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Again, I know why it happened, I'm just salty. I knew better and still did it. It's completely my fault.