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RE: If you abuse the flagging system on this platform to silence someone you don't like or disagree with.

in #busy7 years ago (edited)

The left has floundered, huh? Thinking emoji

Trumps two term presidency and the denial of why Hillary lost the election because evil Russians rigged the election say no matter how many rags like the new yorker tell you that the democrats are winning the reality is that its a massive defeat. The dems are going to zero.

Words can lead to violence.

Exactly. Words are not violence thus you cant treat them as such. This reminds me of the abortion debate.

  1. Women should not be allowed to have abortions because.
  • A fetus can lead to a child.
  • We must treat the moment of conception as a full grown child by law.

If you disagree with me then you are a baby killer and should then be treated as a violent actor.

  1. Nobody should be allowed to say hateful things because.
  • Saying hateful things can lead to violence
  • We must treat the moment that hateful things are said as violent behavior.

This is the kind of argument that was thrown at me in the 90s during the satanic panic. It was equally dumb.

I propose, that if we are to be taxed, that our tax dollars go to us, our healthcare, our roads, our waterways, our lives, rather than to big wigs and fat cats who already have infinite money.

Which is best achieved by not taxing anyone at all. The average person loses more than they gain from taxes. And a lot of it goes right into rich peoples pockets.

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Establishment democrats are going to zero. They are not left-wingers, they are centrist right-wingers. Hillary is a witch and a fraud and should be in jail and the mainstream media works for them and no one should take them seriously at face-value.

Equating the left and democrats is a rookie centrist mistake. 100% of Social Justice Warriors and 100% of Antifa and 100% of progressives all hate the establishment far more than anyone else does.

Pro-lifers are stupid cringe, comparing that to arguing with white supremacists is a bit... interesting. I'm not quite sure I understand.

I honestly agree that if we can abolish taxation and states that we'd all probably be in a better spot than we are right now. However, that's not realistic. What is realistic, though, is changing tax brackets, and getting our roads and waterways fixed. This can happen within our lifetimes, wheras ancap or ancom systems are more fictitious.

EDIT: Also, trump won't survive one term let alone two at the current rate lmfao

I'm not quite sure I understand.

The argument that a pile of cells is not a full grown child is exactly the same argument that words are not full blown violence.

Its a catch 22 situation. If you believe something like words being full blown violence then by that same logic abortion should be illegal because its murdering a child.

EDIT: Also, trump won't survive one term let alone two at the current rate lmfao

You sound IDENTICAL to the people who claimed Obama was going to get impeached.

uhhh, that's a pretty heavy stretch and a great example of a false equivalence.

Also, Trump is literally being taken to several courts with merit, and they are proceeding in prosecuting him on several different counts, combined with the fact that his entire financial and legal team are flipping on him... no. Another false equivalence.

uhhh, that's a pretty heavy stretch and a great example of a false equivalence.

You are going to have to explain how its not a perfect example of claiming something that is in an early stage does not represent in finality the end result with enough certainty to claim that both are equivalent.

no. Another false equivalence.

Obama wasn't even a US citizen according to these people. They were on fire with rage for 8 years. It was no different than the garbage going on right now. Trump is not going to be impeached. This is just history repeating itself right now. Its just the other side.

Russia is the new Birth certificate. Those people would have said the same thing, it was a CERTAINTY that Obama was going to be impeached and that he was not even a US citizen.

Here we go again!

Dude, I don't care about Russia. I'm talking about saudi arabia mostly. He literally violated the emoluments clause several times and it's documented. Russia is a dumbass neoliberal conspiracy shit that no intelligent person believes. Please stop projecting neoliberal stuff on my takes lol.

I don't have a problem with words themselves at all, it depends on context and how they're used. When someone says "we should kill the queers! get yer guns!" that's pretty fuckin rancid, don't you think? lol

I'm talking about saudi arabia mostly. He literally violated the emoluments clause several times and it's documented.

And literally nothing is going to actually happen. Obama killed US citizens with drone strikes. Its impossible to impeach a president at this point. He can probably kill someone during a press conference and play it off.

When someone says "we should kill the queers! get yer guns!" that's pretty fuckin rancid, don't you think? lol

Yep
But its not an act of violence and if you try to stop people from saying things like that then you empower them by giving credence to those words. If you try to silence people that say those things you might as well be "killing the queers" yourself.

Censorship is the tool your enemies use against YOU. If ANTIFA never punched Richard Spencer nobody would even know who he was.

Him getting impeached versus He should be impeached are two different things. Bringing up Obama this and that doesn't mean anything because I think he is a war criminal who should be hanged, just like Bush and just like Clinton.

Disagreeing with people and being vocal about the disagreements are not censorship. Locking people in cages and removing their ability to post would be censorship.

Also, that's false AF, first of all, Antifa is not really an all-cap word, so it's awkward to spell it that way. Second of all, Spencey was a well known white supremacist for a while before that. His popularity has also dwindled in recent times as well.

Keep in mind that the Alt-right do not want freedom of speech, they do not want peaceful protests, they do not want equality and fairness. They are lying when they say they do. You defending their freedoms above and beyond the others only gives them the power to do evil things like murder people covertly and get away with it.

Alright think about it like this.

Imagine if a whale was on here who says stuff like that all the time. Imagine what would happen if he began targeting you and just start downvoting you into oblivion.

The end result would be that you would gain like 10x as many followers and the whale would basically be fucked.

It works this way for EVERYONE.

That's.... not true. I'd probably have no followers and no one would care. That's happened to me several times before in other areas and sites. I've been banned from other platforms and had no follower increase and just lost retention, so....