But you known what? ... Even if I told you, I'm not too comfortable talking about doctrine, let me answer purgatory.
I don't know. Seen points for, seen points against. I need to look way, way more into it, to talk about it.
And I think doctrine is something, one should be very carefull when talking about. Find it, insane all this people who open a YT channel and start talking about scripture, like they are the only ones who get it. I respect the scriptures enough to put my ego aside and say "I don't know." And also I just don't repeat pre packaged "arguments" promoted by our culture.
I don't know.
You believe in giving money to Catholic priests so they can go into Purgatory to pull dead people out and into Heaven? How much money are you giving to these people to do this magic trick?
I just told you, I don't know about Purgatory. How then, can you ask me if I believe in something related to purgatory? Do you see how ridiculous this is? How oblivious it is?
The, priest going into purgatory thing is beyond ridiculous. Beyond! Is like the daVinci code is a legit source, when compared to you. You literally know nothing about Catholicism. Why do you insist on talking about it? In this oblivious manner, none the less? Go talk to a couple priests, study their tradition. Then you can continue to hate it, but at least it won't be from a ridiculous level. I would start with priests pulling the dead.
I'll give one last hint: When a person dies, you can ask the priest to give a mass for the person. And if you have money you CAN give a 5$ tip. If you can't afford it, you don't pay. This is what Catholics actually do. Compare that to your sentence.
On that little sentence, there is ignoring what I've said, and an absolute fake and childish view on the Church. Yeah, keep it up.
It seems you don't know what Catholics were taught. So, you are lying to me about Catholics. That is sad. You either are dumb or you are purposely lying. I cannot prove which. All I know is history. And you are rejecting what Catholics were taught. You could argue that the people who taught them those things were wrong. But you cannot say they were NOT taught those things. You also cannot say they did not give people money. They did it. And you cannot deny that.
Catholics ARE taught. It's not a thing from the past. How am I lying, if I gave you the sources and references for everything? Go to a Church, ask a priest that you want to give money, so that they go to Purgatory and rescue someone. And then let me know how it goes. Any church will do, even the most modernist one. Like ask any Catholic about that, any will do, even the most uninformed one.
Do you have a denomination? Are you like J witness or something like that? Because they are prohibit to read other books, and can't really socialize with other people. If that's the case, maybe it's time to question a few things. If that's not the case, I'll make it really easy for you. There is "The Catechism" a book you can get anywhere. (Except the new age and Protestant book stores, who always ave an anti Catholic section and zero Catholic books) Well, the Catechism is basically all the teachings of the church. Let me know if you find anything in there of what you said? Let me know of ANY Catholic source that says, anything of what you say?
I did not say, people don't give money. I explain the only connection between purgatory and money. Because your arguments are so ot there, I'm kind to try and connect any possible dots. When a person deis, you can ask for a mass and give a tip to the priest. If you can't afford anything, you don't have to pay anything. This as always been the case, for anything, including the catholic invention of hospitals and universities If you where poor, you did not had to pay.
You can give tips. Priests live on tips, they don't have other jobs. They live in the Church. On those masses, the people attending are not even asked to give tips. Of course they give tips. Like the Hebrews would pay their priests and the Temple and most Protestants give tips to the pastor as well. And before the "liberal", the Church was always in charge of any problems in the village, including feeding and clothing the poor.
Not only can I say, they are NOT taught, such ridiculous things, but I can prove it. we have all the teachings of the Church available to everyone. You can try and find any similar thing in the Catechism. But you won't. I recommend looking at it, again you can keep hating on them after. But at least you will know why and actually know what and why you hate them. Because this is nuts.
Again, the priest going to rescue is so nuts, that the weakest of Catholic will know it's a joke. So how am I lying, if I'm giving you all the sources? I think you don't think you are lying. But you are just repeating the narrative, this secular society implants on us.
Because one last time, can you find me a Catholic source that shows anything of what you say? So how can you actually say that's what happens?
You are talking but you are not thinking about what I wrote. That is sad. My point is less on what happens today. You are focused on what happens today. I did not say today. And you say today. I never said today.
I believe, I spoke a lot about the past. But fair enough. Also most people I've seen, who repeat this Davinci thing, they tend to think that Catholics still do all of those things. Sorry, If I assumed that was the case as well.
The Roman Catechism or Catechism of the Council of Trent, was published in 1566. So it is as old, as the oldest of Protestants denominations. Is this old enough? (In fact that's why they made it, because after Luther, everyone was claiming to be a messiah. They had the true meaning. By the time Luther died, there where over 200 denominations. All of which he couldn't stand, by the way)
But let's say, that's not old enough. We can go further back it's just that the catechism is really, convenient. Because it's all of the teachings and doctrine in one place.
But I think there is no need, let's just look at the Catechism it self: - "Nearly every book in the Bible is quoted at least once; so are most of the Church's ecumenical councils, many particular councils are cited, and the writings (mostly encyclicals) of 22 popes. As are the Church's liturgical documents (pre-eminently the Roman Missal and Liturgy of the Hours) and the writings of many, many theologians and saints, as far back as Ignatius of Antioch (1st-2nd century)" -
You can go as back as you want, you won't find any legit and authentic Catholic document (And everything has been documente for 2000 years) where the things you said are even mentioned. Like the priests going to put people in heaven.
I'm just encouraging you to look it up yourself, i've been pointing out good places to start. If by this point, you have no interest what so ever in doing a more rigorous study of it and you're 100% in the Davinci thing... I don't know.
One thing is sure, the anti Christian propaganda in general, is NOTHING, nothing when compared to specific anti Catholic.
Who said anything about The Da Vinci Code? Did I say something about that? I am not talking about that.
Why are you persecuting Christians?