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RE: NOPAL4U Guidelines 1.0

in #community5 years ago (edited)

No, I am not. They are enforcing rules that did not exist when they were broken, with no recourse.

Ok, so maybe they should have been put up first. There is no re-course for online threats. There shouldn't be.

What people have a problem with on YouTube and Twitter and Facebook is that the rules are not clear, and there's no recourse.

Twitter & Youtube have policies on doxxing and death threats. This isn't anything new. No reason PAL shouldn't have the same system in place. These are just common sense things.

Twitter & Youtube big mistakes are de-platforming people based on believes, politically , or whatever it might be . That is way different . In other words, they aren't the same thing. One is well known to be policed, the other isn't right and is totally wrong to do people.

There shouldn't be any recourse for threats or violence. Is that what your saying?

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Twitter & Youtube big mistakes are de-platforming people based on believes, politically , or whatever it might be .

That's an opinion...that may or may not be true. YouTube has been demonetizing for a long time based on unclear rules. People don't know why they got demonetized, and don't know what to do once they are. They can click a little button to have it reviewed...and sometimes it gets reversed...then demonetized again in some cases. Basically no one knows why. They don't know the rules.

The rules were also recently changed...and suddenly people saw their videos deleted, demonetized, and in some cases, their accounts banned. They were punished for rules that didn't exist when they broke them.

I don't oppose online communities making rules...but I do have a problem with blunders in the enforcement of them.

"Twitter & Youtube have policies on doxxing and death threats."

One of the problems is that those policies are enforced arbitrarily, per political affiliation. That is the real problem with the action under discussion here. Since there is a centralized authority in PAL that can arbitrarily take action at their sole option, the political views of that party will be reflected in the actions taken. You may be in their good graces today. You may not. Who 'they' are, and what their politics are, can change at any moment.

That's a guarantee of arbitrary power. It may not be of existential import to us today, but that doesn't mean it's welcome news. PAL is free to exercise their power over their community as they see fit, and always will be. The real problem today is the lack of competing communities that folks can use instead.

"There shouldn't be any recourse for threats or violence. Is that what your saying?"

In the real world there are definitely posters that are able to threaten violence without recourse. They have enough power to control the media they post on. John Bolton is a good example of this.

Hopefully time will solve that problem by enabling enough communities so that all people are able to speak their minds freely. PAL is a step forward, but this action reveals that's but one step on a long journey.

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Yeah where is the warning, oh nope too late! Making an example out of me to spawn fear in their Orwellian landscape they are creating. calling the police! sheesh!

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