People are being far too political about the virus

in #covid4 years ago

I see a lot of people taking hard-line approaches and unfortunately, like most things these days, there always ends up being a political spin to it. It is unfortunate that for some people all roads lead back to Trump but that is the way it is for the people that I consider to have slight mental problems.

The other day I was talking to someone about hydro Hydroxychloroquine (and yes, I copy/pastad that) and he was adamant that this drug was a non issue despite the fact that some people have seen success with it. He thought is should be illegal to take it to fight coronavirus. His reasoning for this? Because the orange man recommended it. I gave up talking to him about it because there was no logic in his statements. His hatred for Trump made it impossible for him to even look at other aspects of the situation and that is just sad.

I can not stand Hillary Clinton, but I like to think that if somewhere in her dodgy-as-shit foundation someone were to discover something that could abate the spread of this virus.... i'd like to think that I would be all for it.

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In the social media world, there seems to be a movement that a person has to be on "a side" as far as this virus is concerned and I am sure that a lot of that is driven by what i consider to be the politically insane out there. I am not on a "side" in regards to Corona and can't believe that there is one to be on other than "recovery." I think that most sane individuals would prefer to see an end to this thing no matter who the person is that helps get there.

That isn't the case in New York though

In this video the interviewer asks NYC residents "If you could choose that the coronavirus gets more extreme and dramatically more people die but... Trump is guaranteed to lose the upcoming election... would you take that?"

A lot of people struggle to answer the question and the more horrible members answer immediately that "yes, they would take that deal." These are terrible people in my mind, especially the person who answers that they would gladly accept 2 million USA deaths to guarantee the ousting of the President.

I know the term gets thrown around perhaps too much but TDS is just incredible. To wish 2 million people dead because "orange man bad."

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I've seen people blame Trump as if it is his fault that people are dying. It's demonstrably not. The whole "flatten the curve" strategy is not, and never was about, limiting the number of people who ultimately contract covid-19. It was about slowing the spread and stretching it out longer so that hospitals do not become overwhelmed and people start dying because they lack proper care. This has not happened (yet). Mounting evidence is suggesting that Covid-19 is no deadlier on a percentage bases than a bad case of the flu...however, it is much easier to spread so more people get it and hence more people die.

I question this whole strategy. Given the amount the government is spending directly on all of this and the impact to the economy, shutting down everything seems like a horrible idea. If necessary, put a fraction of that cost into manufacturing PPE and needed medical equipment. Advise strongly that people older than the age of 60 and/or that have certain health issues (or must be around people who fit that description), to isolate themselves as much as possible. Let everyone else get on with their lives.

Trump is right in that the cure can't be worse than the disease. But I think it already is. And I'm not talking about the pocketbooks of the wealthy but about the lives a devastated economy will ultimately cost. We all hope the economy bounces back quickly after the lockdown is over but that remains to be seen. I think countless small businesses are never coming back. We shall see.

I agree with everything you wrote there.

Imagine if you will that at the start of this we put all at risk people in luxury accommodation somewhere free of charge. It would certainly have cost a lot less than what is happening now.

I think that in the end one of two things is going to happen: Governments will admit they were terribly wrong (unlikely) or they will skew the statistics and control the news to pat themselves on the back for doing "exactly what needed to be done."

Yes, politicians and governments almost never admit to being wrong. I think the proof will be in the numbers though you will have to look for them. You can inflate the COVID-19 deaths but it will be hard to do without causing other types of death to mysteriously decrease. But the claim will always be that it would have been so much worse if anything other than exactly what we did had been done.

indeed, i as noticing a very suspicious drop in pneumonia death rates in USA hospitals as of late.

But the claim will always be that it would have been so much worse if anything other than exactly what we did had been done.

Have you heard the story about the trumpet-player in the tower analogy?