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RE: The Hegelian Dialectic and the Trap of Resistance Movements

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https://listverse.com/2016/06/29/10-instances-of-anarchist-societies-that-actually-worked/

You will notice that the craptitalusts bombed most of those back into submission.

Anything voluntary for all parties is fine.

If you read anything outside marx that defines communism you will see that rule by force comes off the table.
Real communism presents a better deal on average, or it doesn't float.
Our utopia does not require armed thugs to persist.

Two examples, of many:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-anarchist-communism-its-basis-and-principles
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-berkman-what-is-communist-anarchism

This has all been hashed out before, you see who won by knowing the name marx, but not the name Bakunin.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/franz-mehring-the-bakunin-marx-split-in-the-1st-international

I hope you take the time to read those, and more.
Your arguments will carry more power when you have more facts.

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Your belief in Utopia is pretty telling and your advocation of violence in the name of that Utopia (based on your posting history) shows that you're following a similar pattern in my perspective.

I don't know how you could honestly espouse Utopia at this point as a realistic outcome. I will read your sources and consider your perspective, but please don't assume that your belief doesn't have flaws worth re-examining as well. Have a nice day.

Lol,...I don't know where most of that come from, but it wasn't me.
Of course, you don't read what I wrote, just what you think of it.

I clearly stated that rule by force comes off the table and if communism is to be adopted it must be voluntary, but that isn't what you read, it seems.

You have as nice a day as what you can,...

shows that you're following a similar pattern in my perspective.

The thing most people miss when they get to talking about freedom and utopias is that we don't get to determine what is right or wrong for another, only ourselves.

You can try to dictate right and wrong to others, but this endeavor will eventually fail.

You can no more tell me what is right for me, nor me you, than we can pick the next winning horse in the Kentucky derby.

You can give an opinion on what you think is right, but it remains opinion and not fact until after I act on it.

And even then, if I did it, it was right for me to do, or I would have done something else.
It may seem 'wrong' in that life gets harder after, but that harder life is likely to teach valuable lessons not found absent that act.

You can try dictating to others, but you see how that is going for the Clinton's and their gang of hollywood wierdos.
They have controlled the narrative, and the masses, for too long, iyam.