Doesn't prove your point. Yes, we DO have a nonsustainability problem. We DO have a waters rising problem. We DO have a global warming / climate change problem. We ARE consuming crude oil and minerals that will never be replaced, making things that will have to be landfilled somewhere.
I'm not saying that the particulars aren't debatable. What I am saying is that humanity does face a "sustainability challenge" and that denial of this only delays the day that humanity grows up and does the responsible, unselfish thing: Learn how to poop into the toilet rather than in our collective diaper (the Earth).
no we don't and we never have.
You might be right. OTOH, you might be wrong. I think that the truth is in the middle, somewhere between the doomsday predictions and those of those who are in denial.
You might be right. OTOH, you might be wrong. I think that the truth is in the middle, somewhere between the doomsday predictions and those of those who are in denial.
we DO have a nonsustainability problem.
Nope...we (humans) ran out of firewood, we switched to coal..ran out of coal..switched to oil..ran low on oil...invented nukes....
That's typical...we run low on something we invent a whole new industry to replace it.
We DO have a waters rising problem.
Nope...for one thing...how do you differentiate between the land sinking and the water rising?
for another thing NASA said the sea level is no longer rising.
for a third thing even when it was it was only a couple of blond pubic hair widths every decade.
We DO have a global warming / climate change problem
Nope..the oceans are getting warmer...BUT the winters on land are getting cooler.
what's warming the ocean?
Climate is constantly changing..always has..
We ARE consuming crude oil and minerals that will never be replaced
Nope...crude oil replaces it self. Oddly enough it's NOT dinosaur farts...it's made by a natural chemical process relatively deep in the earths crust.,
making things that will have to be landfilled somewhere
Nope..one man's trash is another's treasure..they are already 'mining' landfills for natural gas..
But you're making a fatal mistake. At the rate that people are being dumbed down into sheeple, pretty soon humanity will be scratching their heads trying to figure out what "critical thinking" means. And one nuclear exchange could set us back who knows how far. (That might solve the sustainability problem but at a horrible cost in unimaginable suffering.)
there IS no sustainability problem.
its a fiction of the lefties.
Hey, you're encroaching on MY turf. I'm the one who is always right.
fun fact.
Russia's GNP is less (by quite a bit) than California's
So why are we so afraid of the russian bear when the californian bear is bigger?
Because the California bear is queer.
that explains everything.
I can tell that at any moment you are going to see the light. I can see it in your eyes. Just a tiny speck of doubt. A tiny little voice saying, "Maybe he's right. Maybe he's right."
The point is that neither of us know anything for sure. What we do know is that there is danger in being wrong, either way, but that being wrong one way is far more dangerous in that it is just possible that we could trigger some cataclysm that kills billions of people. IOW, we are literally playing with fire, with climate change, just as we are playing with fire with nuclear arsenals and proliferation.
Since there is risk, there is duty. It is irresponsible to not be considering the "what if" possibilities and making responsible, sustainability oriented conservative policy decisions.
We just don't know. So we should admit all possibilities and use "loss function" analysis to make policy decisions.
but I DO know.
it came to me in a dream.
Not fair. Not fair at all. You held your four aces until NOW? How can I argue against such authority? You've traumatized me. Now, whenever I debate with you, I will be totally stressed out just waiting for the "dream ax" to fall.
Perhaps I will recover from this by morning. Good night, my interesting new retired trucker acquaintance. (I'd say friend, but I don't want to presume anything.)