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I crack up when i think of all the feminists trying to slut shame a chick.
Its sad and pathetic what they are doing.
All i can think of is the Betamax vs. vhs idea.
beta was better but vhs had porn so beta dies out just like blue ray disks and hddvd. porn came on blue ray so hddvd died out.

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All i can think of is the Betamax vs. vhs idea.
beta was better but vhs had porn so beta dies out

You seriously think sony could control what got recorded on betamax tapes? Or that toshiba could control what got distributed on HD-DVD. I mean seriously did you even take a half a second to think critically about what you were writing. because its pretty absurd (and also patently untrue).

Betamax died because, although it provided slightly better playback, machines were way more expensive and for most of the time betamax was in production, tapes could only record an hour of programming (vhs started at 2 hours).

By the time sony pulled their head out of their asses and managed to increase playback length, it was already too late.

Blu-ray is just superior to HDDVD. More storage, all the consoles adopted it. Literally nothing to do with porn. Beyond absurd to suggest it was.

You seriously think sony could control what got recorded on betamax tapes? Or that toshiba could control what got distributed on HD-DVD. I mean seriously did you even take a half a second to think critically about what you were writing. because its pretty absurd (and also patently untrue).

I have not said Sony controled what was put on the disks or tapes, only that because porn came out on the other formats they then won the format wars.

You must live in a world of denial. do a little research, porn had a lot to do with it. Can you give me one format that died out because they were the main carrier of porn? or are we just negating that whole side of the facts because it does not fit your narrative? I would think if your argument was true you could show an example that fits in the same catagory that shows that porn is not a influence on it.

Calling it absurd and untrue, I would like citation please showing it is untrue after that I would love to hear how it is "absurd" as again this is another one of your negative vague subjective terms that means nothing except "fweelings".

you even say it twice, next you gona say its "fake news". LOL

Beyond absurd to suggest it was.

If anything it is "Beyond absurd to suggest" it had nothing to do with any of it.

You're the one making an affirmative claim (with zero evidence), i should think its on you to prove that porn had a significant impact on the emergence of blu-ray and vhs as a dominant format. SO you say something idiotic, and if i can't prove the negative, its true. Nice try.

Youre making a spurious correlation. Yes, HD-DVD and betamax died. And yes, both had less porn on them than Blu-ray and VHS.They also probably had less sci-fi. And fewer romantic comedies. There were probably also fewer documentaries. BEcause fewer movie studios used it. Because of the length issues (see size does matter) and because more people owned the (cheaper) VHS format players.

That is to say, the serious problems with the format caused them to have less porn (and everything else) and also caused them to fail. You are making an argument to causation --- that betamax was less friendly to porn and that made it less appealing which ultimately led to them losing the video cassette market. However, the only reason there was less porn on beta was because there was less everything, because it was already losing the format war.

Same with HDDVD and Blu-ray. Yeah, there was less porn. There were also less video games, less non-porn movies less everything.

Your argument is as ridiculous as saying "Well there was less porn in the soviet union, thats why it failed" Yes, america did have more porn. And also more of everything else. The soviet union had less because of its many fundamental problems. The paucity of porn was an effect, not a cause.

Also, side note... did you actually read those links you posted, or did you just google porn format wars and post all the results. Because almost all the links you posted argue against the point youre trying to make:
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Link 2: Im not on a machine w sound, so i couldnt watch the first link(video) but the second one is a pretty thorough debunking of the porn myth about beta, including a link to porn which was, indeed, available in beta format.

Link 3 is a post from 2007 that specultes that blu-ray would lose to HD-DVD, because sony (who made blu-ray) was porn-unfriendly:

Porn companies have had a problem with Blu-ray after its backer Sony Corp. moved to block the production of porn in the format. Blu-ray ignoring the adult industry is heavily influenced by The Walt Disney Co.,....

link 4 mentions porn only as a footnote, and a speculative one at that.

the format floundered against VHS in the United States due to the lower price of VHS players and the longer recording time available on the VHS tapes. The original Betamax tapes could only record one hour of programming—a fatal flaw. It has been argued that the porn industry’s decision to become an early adopter of the VHS format was a deciding factor in that format’s dominance, as home-viewing of pornography was one of the primary drivers of the early videocassette industry.

link 5 mentions porn only once -- in a link to another article entitled "Betamax Didn’t Lose To VHS Because Of Adult Films"

You might also have heard that Sony’s puritanical stance on not allowing pornography on its tapes led to the overall downfall of the format,at least in part.

Link 6 is someone like you -- Porn killed beta with no evidence that its true

link 7 is another article about how HDDVD is going to win because bluray is not friendly to porn

link 8 -- an article discussing the reasons in detail for VHS winning the format wars. Porn is mentioned as a "rumor" in a shadowbox outside the main article.

link 9 --a thread where one person asks if porn was a major factor and 6 people respond basically telling him no.

link 10 - another article saying HD-DVD would win out over bluray because of the porn industry:

And with video sales remaining the [porn] industry's main breadwinner, it was only a matter of time before the first high-definition adult film made its way to the public. The industry, not so surprisingly, chose HD DVD.

replying here due to nesting:

this is the reply I have been waiting for an answer on that you keep avoiding. I said I will keep copy pasting it to you till you answer it because your whole argument is based on this one point. so lets read it again shal we?:

Im not really sure what you want me to say that i haven't said already. My response now is the same as it was 23 hours ago, when you asked and I responded:

https://steemit.com/flaggot/@skeptic/mass-flaggot-post#@sigmajin/re-sigmajin-re-skeptic-re-sigmajin-re-skeptic-re-sigmajin-re-skeptic-mass-flaggot-post-20161210t080907155z

Obviously, I don't want people to downvote me at all, regardless of the reason. If someone does downvote me (as people have in the past), i might even think that they had made a bad decision.
But i certainly think it was their decision to make. If you want to downvote my posts, go right ahead. If you want to encourage others to do so, thats certainly your perogative. If you can do so without using any patently offensive slurs, or saying i should fuck myself, I won't even downvote you when you do it.

im not really sure how much clearer I can make it.

ask for citation I can provide it if you want. I am not the one claiming it had nothing to do with the format wars, you are.

I am still waiting for your response you the question about flagging that your whole argument rides on. I notice your not answering it and dodging to other posints that have nothing to do with the original argument.

I have not said anything about the soviet union as you are trying to make a strawman argument.

Please answer my other response about the flagging/voting. otherwise your just proving me correct that your full of shit by dodging it and trying to argue about the methapore of format wars.

stand up for your beliefs in this flag/vote ordeal you are using as a crutch to justifiy your flagging or stfu with your dodging petty bullshit. because we both know the truth and until you respond with a yes its ok then I am the one in the right as you wont comfirm your stance on flagging out of opinoion, or as you are trying to claim dowmvoting that happens to be looking like a flag.
this is the reply I have been waiting for an answer on that you keep avoiding. I said I will keep copy pasting it to you till you answer it because your whole argument is based on this one point. so lets read it again shal we?:

So it is a vote, not a flag used for copypasta or child porn or tag abuse only, and we can use it in subjective ways? Are you saying it is ok for everyone to flagg you for subjective reasons? Please say yes as I have never had some one give me permission on the block chain to have open session on there posts with flags let alone telling all of steemit to go crazy with flags on your posts over subjective “reasons”. I would be in awe if that is what you are advocating for. I doubt it though as im sure you know as well as I do that you don't want people flagging you over subjective reasons. or maybe you do, fucked if I know anymore with the shit I have seen on steemit. im not talking about porn either.

So as I have asked a couple times now.
Are you advocating for everyone to flag all of your posts for subjective reasons?
Are you saying it is a down vote and not a flag?
And are you saying it s not there for illegal content, and child porn?

oh and while your thinking about how your going to try to dodge this again here are a couple links on the format wars, you didn't ask for citation but I thought I would provide it considering you were trying to dismiss it without asking for citation or providing back up evidence.

https://www.cnet.com/news/the-deciding-factor-in-hd-format-war-porn-of-course-9681005/
http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/3089/vhs-vs-betamax-how-influential-was-the-pornography-industry-in-the-format-war
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2007/04/06/porn_industry_plays_huge_part_in_format_war
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/effectively_killed_by_porn_in_the_early_80s_sony_vows_to_discontinue_beta1
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/11/10/the-40-year-porn-war-is-finally-over-sony-gives-up-on-its-betamax-dreams/
http://www.weirdretro.org.uk/captains-blog/format-wars-vhs-vs-betamax-porn-won
http://www.alternet.org/story/48612/will_porn_determine_the_winner_in_the_hd_format_wars
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3311982/Sony-FINALLY-kills-Betamax-Electronics-giant-cease-production-cassettes-40-years-format-wars-VHS.html
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5326
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/01/22/porn-industry-may-decide-dvd-format-war.html

so my comment that it had some influence was not asurbe and untrue like you claim. if anything like I said, you claiming porn had nothing at all to do with any of it and to think it might have had anything to do with it is asurbe is the actual asurbe part of it all.
I look forward to you actually trying to respond to the reply I gave you almost 24 hours ago that you keep dodging. I doubt you will though and continue trying to dodge the original argument.

Bring that flaggot gold again as I still need one or 2 more epic quotes from you to just push my flaggot post to the top of the trending page maybe. As you may have noticed I don't take anything out of context so if you really think your in the right the post will benefit you and only make me look bad correct?
cant wait to hear your answers.