Dear Flat Earthers 🌀 What Goes 430,000 MPH and Why? And How to TOUCH THE SUN!

in #flatearth6 years ago (edited)


There was an awesome $300 million rocket launch of the $1.5 billion Parker Solar Probe recently, but my question for you is; What's all this stuff for? Why spend so much to build all this to somehow hide the Flat Earth?





When, to sell their "lie" of a fake launch, from an allegedly fake globe Earth, all they'd need to do is make a dummy building and rocket, keep people away (like they do the supposed Flat Earth "ice wall,") then show some cgi movie of the staged event. Why go to all this expense of a real, working Delta IV Heavy rocket and 10,000,000 pound moveable building? Why make it 30 stories high when a shorter one would be cheaper? Why does it all look and sound so real, even during take off? Why pay thousands of engineers, mechanics, technicians, janitors, accountants, secretaries, HR people, marketing and press people, etc., to build this monstrosity of a thing, or the 20 or 100 people to look like they're working on launch day, when you'd only need say, 15 fake workers? They even pay what the CEO calls a "slosh-ologist" (a nickname?) to make sure fuel calculations and storage is right! Aside from the question of paying thousands of people, they must try to keep the number of those who know the truth to a minimum right? Wouldn't 2, or even 1 booster be just as convincing as 3? If the purpose is to fake data about the sun, wouldn't it be easier to just create it from Earth without all this fanfare and mumbo-jumbo?


Keep in mind that this is only 1 project! When it could be done so much more cost effectively, why all the trillions of dollars worth of payment to people, and for infrastructure, science and data built or established around principles and forces determined by a globe Earth?!


Anyways, back on said globe Earth. (Sorry, but it's too good a chance for a friendly jab...!) And changing subjects a bit...


This quick video from Tech Insider describes the purpose of the probe.



The coolest part of this specific launch to me, is that because we are in orbit around the sun, anything leaving the Earth wants to continue the same outwards vector and velocity, but the need of this Parker Solar Probe is to go inwards towards the sun to do its tests. (Imagine swinging a ball on a rope around your head, then letting go.)


"We're in orbit right now around the sun at 67,000 mph. You gotta take that energy out to get any closer. It's actually really hard to go in, it's much easier to go out." - Tory Bruno, CEO of ULA.


The math must be staggering, but the clever solution to this problem is to repeatedly use Venus as a gravity assist, to shrink the orbit of the probe closer and closer to the sun on every 3rd pass around the solar system. (Venus is most proximal to the probe only every 3rd orbit.) (Trajectory plan proposed by Andrew A. Dantzler, for who the launch was in memory of.)


This means that the launch vehicle needed to travel at about 17,000 mph to reach Earth's escape velocity, and were no corrections made, or were there no interference from the gravity of other solar bodies, it would just continue in a straight line out of our system. But to overcome this outwards force, after shedding the rockets, the probe was slowed down to an incredibly low 10 meters per second after the first vector correction maneuver. Next, and here is where humans will strike our mind-boggling new speed record, by making these gravity assist runs around the sun at one end and Venus at the other, the probe will eventually be brought back up to 430,000 mph, or 6% of the speed of light! Amazing! If I understood all that correctly, and at this point at over 98 miles/second!, the probe can be brought in tight where it will stay in orbit, always keeping its solar shield towards the sun, which will only be 3.8 million miles away! (Earth is 1 A.U or about 93 million miles/149.6 million km away.)


"The mission will be the first to fly directly through the Sun’s corona." - NASA


From SciNews, here is the probe's path for the next few years.



Just for curiosity, and if again I understand correctly, this means with today's technology, and even if we only made basically the equivalent of the same number of vector corrections around tiny Venus, we could reach the nearest star Alpha Centauri (4.3 LY's away,) in about 68.8 years, (@6.25% SoL!) But what if we used the Sun itself, and massive Jupiter, and also did more circuits before leaving the solar system?! Amazing humans!


Anyways, here is a cool conversation before and during "rollback" from the rocket, just before the launch, between the CEO of the company ULA, United Launch Alliance, and rocket engineer (iirc) and general tinkerer, Destin from SmarterEveryDay on Youtube. (Probably my favourite channel, except he's a busy dad, so he doesn't post enough!)



Here is a longer, more informative version from Smarter Every Day 2.



Named after the scientist who hypothesized solar winds, meet some of the people working on the project, and get an explanation of the NASA mission for the Parker Solar Probe. (Again from SmarterEveryDay.)


"So you're gonna take a coronal mass ejection right to the face?!"
"Right to the face!"



And finally, here is the launch from NASA!



Well, I hope anyone could admire and enjoy this literally momentous achievement, but I also hope it gives some people considering the Flat Earth "model" some good questions to answer. Most importantly, not why do "they" want people to believe in a globe Earth, but why would "they" want people to believe in a Flat Earth...?




(CGI of probe in place around sun. Images of rocket before and during launch.)




Thanks For Your Attention and Support!


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Ah, you've overlooked the fact that all that $$$ is spent right here on earth, and goes into the pockets of the cronies and string pullers connected to legislators...

A movie-lot version would not leverage nearly enough money! Or be nearly as entertaining.

I wonder if any real flat-earthers are reading this? ;)

😄😇😄

@creatr

Like the guy who crowd funded 10 or 20 grand for a steam powered rocket to take him up something like 2000 ft to check for curvature?! (He never thought to hire a helicopter ride for $200!)

That's pretty funny too!

Would they read a post with a title that seems against their theory? Maybe I should have said something different?

This old saw applies here, I think:

"Don't confuse me with the facts--my mind is made up!"

Or, as the amazing poet and songwriter Paul Simon put it,

"A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest."

Nice read @inphiknit
I am already very curious about the first measured values, pictures, and results.

Oh, the dear flat earthers... I won't say anything about this, except that I have to admit that it is a masterpiece of the universe to flatten the planet on which we live.

Mercury -> Sphere
Venus -> Sphere
Earth -> Flat
Mars -> Sphere
Jupiter -> Sphere
Saturn -> Sphere
Uranus -> Sphere
Neptune -> Sphere
Pluto -> Sphere (For me Pluto is still part of this list)

And now the coolest thing ever, the moon is also a sphere. That's freaking awesome!

Heh, yeah^^ You can see the moon is spherical by the apparent change in the shapes of the avg. crater as you look at those in the centre of our view of the moon which are round, compared with those towards its "edges," where the craters appear more oblong.

The phases are pretty good proof too, lol!

Totally right @inphiknit

I can't understand the flat-earther arguments. Anyone who has ever been to the sea can see the curvature on the horizon. Or a view from the plane. I also don't understand how it would be possible to silence thousands of people involved in the research. Somebody has to talk away, after all.

But let them think what they want, if only they weren't so penetrating. I don't think of the Reptilians at all now :-D

Shhhh! There's no such thing as reptilians. (He says with a hypnotic gaze.)

Hahaha... great :-D

Another thing to mention is that covering up a flat Earth has zero benefits to anybody. Faking results of a drug trial. Something like SIDS or GMO or Vaccine related issues have some logic behind them. Flat Earth has ZERO.

So true, with one hugely ironic exception; the "flat earth industrial complex" (so lame!) who sell conferences, memberships, videos, books etc. lol, but I'm sure having that discussion with someone who just dropped $1499.00 on a FE model would go well!

You know, that's worth a post if one of us is ever inclined^^

It's probably a great boom for some small scale entrepreneurs.

Don't talk about scale! C'mon now!



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confusion. Gimme a break🐓

Lolz. Is that Chicken Little hiding from the falling sky?!

Kapparot?

Either way, it's appropriate^~

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I saw an Atlas 5 launch last year and it was fucking incredible! Anyone who thinks the space program is fake has never witnessed a launch in person. And they don't know how their GPS or TV works. Anyone who thinks the Earth has flat has never paid attention to the horizon when out at sea.

That must have been so cool to see, hear and feel! I saw something (don't know what) get launched when I was a kid, and 30 or so yrs later, still clearly recall the sound and rumble. The sight sure was something too!
But... you can only bring the horse to the water...

have they never had freeze dried ice cream?! Written upside-down with a space pen?!

Don't try to sell me your freeze-dried-ice-cream-lies!

And my pencil works upside down, so why wouldn't my pen?

lolz

and I bet half these motherfuckers tie their shoes with Velcro.

People just dont think...even a group of 3 people cant keep a secret LOL!!!

You mean like, having an ice wall that is secretly guarded by 10,000 UN boats and like 100,000 people is a bad idea from the start?!

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I am not a flat Earth er , but cannot help but point out that if you are paying for the party than you want to pay as little as possible. If everyone else is paying though it can be as expensive as you like. LOL

It's a good point, but even so, why not make it cheap then pocket the difference and live extra high on the hog?!

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