As someone not religious, and educated in the Darwinism theory - I have been looking at this whole thing (very much from a 'political narrative and deception perspective, and how science has been manipulated/ fabricated to continue a narrative for the powers that be, throughout history..
(and working on the premise - that why trust a proven liar?)
There are gaps in the theory of evolution... (I'm not arguing for a god, btw).
If this theory was correct, there would be millions of lifeforms in the intermediary processes of changing from one thing to another... And plenty of fossils to confirm this...
There are none.
https://steemit.com/blog/@lucylin/a-strange-case-of-darwinist-depression-part-1
Common sense tells me there is something going on, that is not science as we are educated to believe..
I agree men have always manipulated things like science to suit an agenda
@allusive ... and religion has never manipulated anyone right? Lolz
Cg
Yes it has but there's manipulation that is for mans benefit (science) and manipulation that you can judge for yourself as whether it is to use man (religion) if it makes you do good and want to do right.
Ah I see, so it's just a matter of perspective. If a priest or Imman says don't touch yourself, or give me lots of money because that's what god wants, it's somehow OK?
No, manipulation is manipulation. Religion is the ultimate tool for that, because you are not allowed to refute divine law.
Look at the ridiculous laws in Saudi, look at the women who have been stoned to death because they dared come forward to accuse their rapists and were then called adulterers.
Look at ancient lore in the bible and koran which gives men the right to buy and sell women because god says so.
Science doesn't manipulate, science is just the process of questioning. That is not to say that some scientists try and manipulate, but at least they are answerable to checkable facts.
Cg
There are loads and loads of fossils, but the fact is most of them are either buried under millions of tonnes of rock (how fossils are made) or at the bottom of the sea.
Why oh why would there be a conspiracy? Who benefits from such a pointless and complex conspiracy involving thousands upon thousands, nay tens of thousands of academics?
Seriously if you really want to put up a credible argument against natural selection read On The Origin Of The Species, by means of Natural Selection by Charles Darwin.
It's not that hard a read and it is readily available.
Cg
That's like me telling you to read the bible it's not that hard a read and is readily available, are you going to?
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- allusive
I'm a bot. I detect haiku.
It is nothing like you saying 'read the bible'. The reason being that Darwin references evidence and experiments that you yourself can carry out and see if you get the same results.
Whereas the bible is a bunch of stories that I have to take at face value.
Cg
You can try things out too "love thy neighbour" not in the literal sense but just be kind/ good on general. The stories as you would say can teach a lesson just like theories of scientists, you can apply it until someone comes along and proves it wrong.
Absolutely agree, the funny thing is, in order to build such large societies we had worked that out before religion came along to state the obvious. It is a good example to follow, I find I can be kind without the fear of a deity punishing me if I'm not. :-)
Cg
...to help get rid the notion of religion, of god - so as to make the state the omnipotent power...
.... marxism before marx....?
I'm interested in this idea that science has been manipulated/fabricated.
I mean, I'm sure it has been before in isolated cases, but that is not the same as supposing that the edifice of contemporary scientific literature in general is compromised to the extent that it is generally unreliable. It does look to me at the moment that the scientific community is by and large trustworthy. Would you be able to point me to arguments to the contrary?