Circle Purchases Poloniex
It was announced with great fanfare that Goldman Sachs backed payment app Circle has purchased long time crypto exchange Poloniex for approximately $400 million.
Circle has been in the cryptosphere for over 5 years, helping people buy and sell bitcoin alongside fiat currencies.
Reuters news agency briefly describes Circle as:
One of the best-funded blockchain startups, its investors include Goldman Sachs Group Inc and Baidu Inc.
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Poloniex is well-known among cryptocurrency investors because it offers trading on a wide range of digital coins, several of which have been issued through online fundraisers known as “initial coin offerings” (ICOs).
Proponents see an assortment of positive aspects about Circle's acquisition, chief among them is it lends further legitimacy to the future of cryptocurrencies across the board. Furthermore, the deal may be another indicator that the market is gaining credibility with mainstream financial investors.
Other positives relate to bolstering the integrity of Poloniex itself which, over the past year, has struggled at times to keep up with demand and the ability to provide timely customer support. Overall, many see that the move will provide increased safety, credibility, stability and scalability.
Check out @crypt0's recent vlog here or @ivanli 's here for recent posts about the news and for additional details on the Poloniex deal.
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As Circle's catchy slogan suggests, their aim is to take the mystery out cryptocurrencies, perhaps making cryptocurrency more accessible to new investors. Yet, could the meaning of the phrase be understood in a more literal way?
The Reuters article states that a previous 'investigation' by the news organization revealed,
...that Poloniex had allowed some customers to trade cryptocurrencies and withdraw up to $2,000 worth of digital coins a day by providing only a name, an email address and a country.
Most in the cryptoverse would agree with this statement and think nothing of it but to outsiders looking in this is perhaps far from comforting.
“I’m not sure that 100 percent of prior clients have gone through all their identity verification requests. I know they have a huge backlog of clients in their KYC queues,”
“But obviously now that we operate the company we’re going to ensure that the business is compliant in every way it needs to be.”
-Circle co-founder and CEO Jeremy Allaire
It would seem that ensuring 'compliance' is a reference to abiding by federal securities laws and SEC regulations as some of the ICO coins listed on Poloniex might be considered securities in the US.
“Clearly, people can get around things like IP (internet protocol) restrictions, and other restrictions, and people do it all the time. People evade geo-blocking mechanisms, and it’s difficult to fully police. So it’s possible that some people have snuck through that, and that’s obviously something we take very seriously”
Just as other major crypto exchanges Bittrex and Binance have demanded 'advanced verification' from new and older users in recent months, expect Poloniex to enforce stricter requirements on their users as well. Some see this as a necessary move towards greater transparency and to help rid the space of scam artists and theft. But others see these changes as part of an increasing infringement on privacy and a push towards identifying individuals and their personal assets.
Another piece of information couched in the Reuters piece was:
Circle said that in the coming years, it expected to grow the Poloniex exchange out to include other non-crypto assets, such as physical goods and financial products such as derivatives.
Derivatives. These are the financial tools that almost wrecked the world economy in 2008 and is essentially legalized gambling.
“An unregulated derivatives market essentially gives Wall Street a way to place hidden taxes on everything in the world.”
-Matt Taibbi
It's difficult to know exactly what is meant by 'growing the Poloniex exchange' and 'adding products such as derivatives'.
I don't know about you but I sure as hell don't want Vampire Squid derivatives.
Bank of America's Crypto Patents
This week's headlines belong to Circle and Goldman Sachs but rest assured other major Wall Street players will be entering the fray in due course.
In late 2017, Coindesk reported that the second largest bank in the United States, Bank of America, was awarded a patent on an automated exchange system.
a potential cryptocurrency exchange that would convert one digital currency into another. Further, this system would be automated, establishing the exchange rate between the two currencies based on external data feeds.
Surprisingly, this is not Bank of America's first patent in relation to cryptocurrencies. In 2014, BoA filed a patent to establish a "cryptocurrency-powered wire transfer system". Coindesk explains;
That system would allow users to transfer funds by converting the sender's local currency into a cryptocurrency, sending it to a foreign exchange, and then converting it to the destination country's currency.
Hold on. What?
This process seems redundant and an obvious attempt to inject banking institutions back into their current middleman role in international money transfers. One of the main tenets of cryptocurrencies is to eliminate the need for a middleman and allow for people in communities and around the world to safely send and receive funds using a P2P network.
Called It
In an article I posted 2 months ago, Bitcoin and Bilderberg, I predicted that the banking industry would naturally attempt to control the crypto space by controlling the exchanges.
It makes a lot of sense because these are the natural bottle necks or centralized choke points in the ecosystem.
This is exactly what we’re seeing with the purchase of Poloniex. If Wall Street gains control all of the major exchanges, then it will become next to impossible to avoid doing business with these centralized banking institutions.
It’s not hard to imagine that additional fees will slowly creep into the system. Opening an account with Circle, transactions fees, or withdrawal fees may be tacked on to anyone trying to exchange crypto to fiat and vice versa.
As was illustrated by the Coindesk article, Bank of America seems poised to enter the cryptocurrency market and more banksters are sure to follow.
Let’s not forget that these very same financial institutions are the ones that caused the stock market to crash in 2008 and almost tanked the entire US economy by running the economy like a casino. In the end, it was the taxpayers who bailed out the banks.
The attempts to infiltrate the cryptosphere by the banking elite is fully underway. So expect more announcements in the near future involving the acquisition of major exchanges by Wall Street backed startups.
Hey, what’s the big idea? We should be celebrating!
Some in the cryptoverse are poised to make some fantastic gains and I’m not here to rain on anyone's parade. However, the entire POINT of Satoshi’s innovation was to find a way to free us from the centralized system where Vampire Squids who are, to quote Taibbi once more, "relentlessly jamming their blood funnels into anything that smells like money."
Now more than ever, the importance of having DEX (decentralized exchanges) is important if we don’t want to see the slow process of centralization take hold and spread across the entire market.
In contrast, there was another announcement recently that EOS and Bitfinex will be joining forces to create a decentralized exchange.
https://steemit.com/eosio/@matthewwarn/eosfinex
“We are excited to leverage EOS.io to further advance the field of high performance and trustless on-chain exchange. Block.one continues to display an unwavering dedication to improving blockchain scalability through the EOS.IO platform and it is our hope that this collaboration will allow significant advancement for all decentralised exchange” commented J.L. van der Velde, Bitfinex CEO.
This adds to the existing fully DEXed sites:
Semi-Decentralized:
Other good options for maintaining your privacy/anonymity are:
Blocktrades
Shape Shift
Changelly
A sad day but no surprise really. The Vampire Squid and associated entities were always going to move in and try to hoover up the vast profits available now cryptos are permanently being reported upon in the MSM.
I see it this way.....
I won’t use any big banking backed exchanges, ever. I hope that most early adopters will have the same attitude towards these parasitic institutions.
However if the masses haven’t learned already that the the big banking institutions only exist to rip them off then more fool them if they use them to acquire cryptocurrencies, when refusing to use them as a place to purchase could ultimately see an end to their dominance.
Sadly I fear a lot of early investors in the space have forgotten the original intention of the cryptos was not only to be a means of peer to peer decentralised medium exchange but to also put an end to the dominance of these insipid institutions that have held the world in their financial grip for so long.
Hopefully my fears will be allayed and the news will get out to steer clear of GS, BofA and any other exchanges controlled by the big banks.
Crypto’s need to be used slay the vampire squid not feed it!
"In an article I posted 2 months ago, Bitcoin and Bilderberg, I predicted that the banking industry would naturally attempt to control the crypto space by controlling the exchanges."
You are/were so right. I'm writing about control over crypto today, as well. LedgerX began trading bitcoin derivatives last year, and they enjoy their early bird positioning because the lobbyists who garnered it for them from the CFTC are all former members of the CFTC. Look for that venn later today.
Ah, you're right I forgot about the CME bitcoin futures derivatives trading opened already, thx. You're Venns are awesome, looking forward to more. And...still think that's so cool that I just discovered you are/were the author of those all along! lol
This is a great article and really drives home the point.
The banksters are looking to get their hand in on the game. People fear the banksters and the government thinking they can stop crypto with rules, purchasing, etc. They cannot. It is impossible to stop crypto in this manner.
The one weak point is the exchanges. Those are centralized so they can be regulated (which we see) and bought (which we are seeing). The banksters see a way to A) profit from trading fees and B) to control what takes place. Both of these are against what we all believe needs to happen.
I agree with you about DEX. In fact, I posted either in an article or comment yesterday that we need to promote the entire decentralization idea. Everything needs to be decentralization. This is what people need to wake up to.
A starting point is all the hacks. Decentralized entities do not get hacked. Each time an Equifax happens, we need to pounce on that to rave about how decentralization is a much better option.
It can be done but the fact the banksters are sicking their claws into crypto means that it is that much tougher.
Hopefully atomic swaps take off so there is no need for exchanges in the future.
By the way v4vapid, I have some nice mortgage backed securities (MBS) I can sell you cheap if interested. They are all quality loans in there...and Goldman wasnt shorting this batch too badly when they sold it to me. 😀
May be, it's high time that we start supporting decentralized exchanges. Bitshares is the way to go. Says your 4927th follower.
Hi @v4vapid, Loved landing at your blog and it's pleasure connecting with you. Any tips for a brand new Steemian to make the most out of this amazing platform?
The banksters getting into one of the biggest vrypto exchanges is troubling... Decentralization slowly seeping into the hands of centralized institutional control.... hmmm.... is this a pattern for the future taking shape?
Definitely something to keep a close eye on... I imagine that when the money starts pouring in people with holdings will be so over the moon that we might miss some big moves by the banksters infiltrating deeper.
I trust YOU won't miss it∞§∞
Is this the start of all our coinbases, bittrexes, gdaxs, binances, etc getting snapped up by large banks and banking interests? Are we going to end up right back where we started, with us under the thumb of our financial overlords?
The golden days of crypto might be over before they begin.
Aieee!
I hope the community can adapt quickly and provide more DEXs but we all know that the banksters will not give up without fighting tooth and nail to hold their dominance.
I opened a Poloniex account when looking for an exchange (I never used it) but heard so many bad things about them. Today I got an email saying "how excited" they were about their relationship with Circle! Just what the crypto community needs- derivatives!!! Good post my friend!
I know....derivatives??!! Might as well just dig a pit in the ground and start shoveling people's savings into now ;)
I've done several articles on them- my most fervent prayer for cryptos was to keep the manipulators out!!!
This is depressing. Japan going down the same road. Everywhere, really. Also encouraging though. The bastards don't like the freedom this tech provides, as evidenced by the scramble to regulate.
There's still hope my friend and there's a lot of innovation in the community. It's always incremental isn't it though? ...coup d'etat in slow motion type shit, lol, those bastards.
I agree with your point of view and one doesn't even have to be a conspiracist to see it. I hope this voice will get through to the mainstream crypto media, too. As long as they're not in the squid's tentacles themselves.
lol, yeah they may have a tentacle-fetish which prevents them from seeing the light ;)
If cryptocurrancy dominate then the dictatorship of banking system will ends that's why they will try every possible way not to gave dominancy to cryptocurrancy @v4vapid
Yes, this is correct. They've been studying the tech and now they're ready to make their moves.
Exactly so cryptocurrancy now should made strategy against this mafia and should dominate because it's good if crypto dominate in future @v4vapid
Great article as always.
I knew this was inevitable, BUT I still believe the crypto space will succeed in decentralizing the financial market. Barring any type of major government interference, I don't see how the big banks could possibly gain control over such a vast and inherently decentralized economy. I'm not a huge trader or know too much about the crypto space in general, but I believe there are too many extremely smart people in the space who will not let that happen..... Hopefully :|
Oh for sure, I'm not throwing in the towel on cryptos by any means!
I mainly write these articles as motivation for people to stay sharp, be aware and to see what these greedy fucks are doing in the background.
I really do think that the crypto-community is quite resilient. It's not all doom and gloom ;)
Oh definitely man, wasn't thinking you were being all doom and gloom. That's why I love your articles, you give the facts. You show it how it is, and I dig that.
Keep fighting the good fight!! We will be victorious one day :D
I do agree here:
and also here:
While adoption and confidence is a positive (and may reflect upswings in price), the controls and unhidden tax certainly isn't.
Top blogging as usual, and well done on calling it in advance!
These were my exact thoughts while reading through the article and seeing the names of these company’s being mentioned. Hopefully it will have some positive outcome, but the tentacles tell the tale in this one it would appear.
Pray for DEX.
Great write up too btw. Information is power.
Cheers!
I agree with some of the commenters and yourself that in the short term, the entry of the vampire squids into the crypto exchanges could be a good thing as far as giving a veil of legitimacy to the crypto space to the general public and encouraging more people to enter the it, but I also think @krnel is spot on
For likeminded people like ourselves and many others on Steemit who are awake and aware, there will always be an alternative to the vampire squid exchanges and if there isn't, someone will build one like seems to be happening with the partnership between EOS and Bitfinex you mentioned.
2018 is going to be a big year for crypto IMO and the bigger it gets, the more eager the vampires will be to suck every last drop of goodness out of it.
Great GIFs btw ;-)
They've done everything in their power to slander crypto, now they've realised they can't beat us, and they won't join us - so they're just buying us out.
I hope none of the other exchanges follow suit.
We don’t want these centralised, mainstream institutions to remain in control, but we do need them to adapt their models and get on board with crypto. If they’re investing and innovating in the space, like GS are here, then it’s a great thing in my opinion.
The beautiful thing about crypto is that they never will be able to take full control like they enjoy in the current system. The tighter they grip, the more it slips through, so to say 😉.
Have a good day mate, worth the resteem.
Fair points, and of I do agree that their involvement in the space has some real positives. It legitimizes cryptocurrencies to a great extent and suggests that the technology IS the future of money. Those of us who are already in the space stand to do gain from this, absolutely.
I hope you're right that they can never take 'full control', is there any specific reasons as to why you believe that they cannot impose a NDWO (New Digital World Order) by co-opting the technology and/or the markets?
Well they can make their own centralised/closed network on a blockchain that they control, but they'll never be able to do it with any of the decentralised coins that are out there already. And it's those, that will always do their job in providing an alternative to that world order you are worried about.
I won't have a bank account because Citi defrauded me some years ago. I won't open an account on an exchange for the same reasons. I saw this coming, as did you.
I'll just wait until I can use Steem directly as currency, p2p, or will just keep on doing what I am doing now, which is subsisting on my wages.
I will not play their game.
Thanks!
Great post.
As happens all too often, I'm late to the party and just today find myself reading your fine article. You've said:
Yes, the entire point. Liberation from the damn banksters and the shadow powers that be who insist on running the world.
Spot on. The DEXs already make it possible to buy and sell as long as we remain entirely within the cryptosphere. However, during "the transition," we still have this desperate need for fiat gateways that enable us to do mundane things like pay the rent and buy the groceries.
I've suggested in a previous article that we do this ourselves, and that we use existing private tools like http://localbitcoins.com rather than use the exchanges that increasingly want to probe our colons for information.
Mass adoption is a double-edged sword. The faster it happens, the faster we can subsist entirely using crypto. However, those who control the perception of the masses will also very likely determine which cryptocurrencies they ultimately adopt. And now I have the plot for my entry into your latest contest. ;)
Thanks for a great article, however late I may have found it. ;)
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Hey thanks for having a read, I completely agree with you that in the long run we won't need exchanges for fiat because we'll be able to use cryptos for all our needs. So, yes this is an interesting moment as the old system attempts to stay relevant in the changing landscape. Ultimately, this is about maintaining control and this is their focal point until they roll out the 'official fed coins', centralized of course.
Thanks for the reminder on the localbitcoins.com, I've never used it but the first bit coin i bought was from a friend in a cafe. It's also perhaps the best way to exchange for fiat and keep our privacy.
Stoked you found the contest! Love your submissions, and looking forward to another my friend ;)
well time to move my coins off poloniex to a private wallet!
I think the real indicator to keep an eye on is how "regulators" choose to address decentralized exchanges. It goes without saying that Wall St will be acquiring the more centralized crypto exchanges and ancillary services. My gut tells me they will label decentralized exchanges illegal and tell the public that terrorists use them to skirt regulation or some other boogeyman narrative.
Just look at what the DOJ did to Ross Ulbricht. They will use his case as evidence that they are not messing around, and anyone willing to forge ahead with decentralized exchanges will pay the ultimate price.
I encourage everyone to watch this presentation from Ross' mother about how he was unrightfully sentenced for creating the first decentralized exchange.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16DBD7RnVv2k2aSlorhg9WaBNemGbIBOF/view
At the end we under the thumbs of financial issue and whole scene begins with the start 😑
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It's really great article. I read it. It's really true what you said. Thanks for sharing it.
Good, bad, or otherwise, I think the KYC compliance is to be expected when corporate whales get involved.
However, the irony is not lost on me that compliance & derivatives can come in the same package. Cryptocurrency is already volatile enough, do we want financial markets creating even more volatility?
I think it's good for more widespread adoption of blockchain. How I see it, if big bankers get more invested in blockchain, it can only help lobbying/regulation interests in the short term. I just hope I don't hear stories of people mortgaging their home for cyptoderivatives.
Nice read! The gif image of that man with squid arms really makes me shiver coz I hate tentacles so much.
I'm not yet sure what will happen aside from some people want control over our crypto world. I hope these exchange won't be used against us ^^
Very elegant way to present you, The truth is in all your words.
It is possible to get many useful examples from your writing. well done and keep it up.
very good, i like your post
Yeah well goodluck getting bittrex and binance to follow suit. Goodbye poloniex holdings.
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It is morning. And this article works like a coffee to me. Noticed GS putting his tentacles around Poloniex news while working at night. It was always the silent fart that smells the worst and even if it is silent it is alerting to everyone around. I bet that the more banks will try to pave their way into cryptos the more society will bring alternatives and turn their back on them. EOSFINEX could be one of them!
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Ugh. Here come the banksters trying to ruin crypto.ETH and Maker DAI will be my go to(look into Maker DAI). :)
I think banks are trying to control crypto by controlling the exchanges.
Yeah you are right...In order to have control over the cryptocurrency most of the bank are playing dirty game by regulating their self made policy ij order to take control on flow of cryptocurrency...They are aware that stock market are dipping and this is bcoz cryptocurrency had won the trust of people where they can easily transect the coins and investmemt with email id and phone number...
Purchase of @poloneix is a big conspiracy by the banking instution towards their own control over cryptocurrency blockchain...This to create hassle among cryptocurrency holder by making many formality works and charging fee and limitations.
No matter what they will never be able to control the cryptocurrency market they are trying to cover it with their tantcles...Various platform and systems are developing to solve such conspiracy...
Thanks for sharing deep interpretation and good report @v4vapid
A good article. However, I must warn you about Changelly- they simply took my 700 pivx in December 2017, didn't even say thank you. They are thieves.
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I used poloniex a lot but not a very big amount. Love the low withdrawal fees thou. So far so good. Definitely will wait for circle.
Very helpful post. It addresses many of my concerns with the kind of insight into implications that I'm looking for. Thank you.
Most of the people were already annoyed from their pathetic services so it does not make any difference whether they are in business or not. Never used it. Great post.
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Thank you for sharing
Talk to the Steemians who used Poloniex and you will find several similar situations like this one:
I'm happy now finally it would be in better hands. Happy Steeming!
So it's @dan to the rescue again? !
Of course you can always trade xrypto directly with people and avoid the exchanges altogether!
And then just try and live as fiat free as possible...
great post,,thanks for sharing
Great post buddy. This just furthers my desire to get out of the cryptos and into some physical assests, just waiting for the next big wave.
Aa soon as I heard of this acquisition I thought about how the big money is going to now try to control and manipulate the cryptosphere. Idk what took them so long? If there's money to be made you can bet these leeches will latch on..
Hey @v4vapid. Great take on this. I sure as hell don't want the crypto world taken over by these greedy bastards.
Oh and its been a while so you hosted your contests. Hope all is well?
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