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RE: When Intervention Fails | [Essay Part 1]

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"As I have stated, you have a preconceived set of values and ideals, so do I, these do not meet in all ways and will not be changed, therefore there is no point in continuing this."

My values and ideals change through debate and understanding of other viewpoints, do not force your unchanging nature onto me.

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Who would decide what is personal vs private property? A central authority? Seems like this debate is fictitious also.

Even if it wasn't, if I (and lets say 5,000 others) in a location where collectivist-anarchism prevails didn't want to give up our private property, what would the 'democratic' collectivist-anarchist group do? Looks like as stated in the divided island parable, you would invade and kill them (as the private property owners wouldn't just let you take it). Logic implies this system is in no way better than what we have today, perhaps even worse.

I do not have an unchanging nature, the only constant is change, I'm only saying your personal identity has been integrated into this ideology, and ideology that embraces mass violence and oppression under the guise of a 'collective'. If test scores were collectivized, as shown, the top students would eventually stop taking the tests as their individuality would have been removed, hence productivity decreases.

There would not be a mass flooding from the voluntarist side. With voluntarism there would be no need to live rigidly in one defined area, many would and could live in the collectivist area; whereas the opposite could not be true because violence would be enacted. This is because competing currencies would exist (crypto) so there is nobody forcing you to use a particular one.

Why would you wish to be on Steemit, a platform which you could state as capitalist, and whom those that had the incentive initially have gained the majority of followers and power? Does this not contradict with your values?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_property

alright well, I don't have enough time to answer these basic questions. Please read up on it yourself, its faster either way.

"Why would you wish to be on Steemit, a platform which you could state as capitalist, and whom those that had the incentive initially have gained the majority of followers and power? Does this not contradict with your values?"

"oh man you are eating the food you made under feudalism and wearing the rags it gave you, you can't want capitalism hahaha I win"

"If I gave away my car, I would feel even more guilty. When I go to visit peasants in southern Colombia, they don't want me to give up my car. They want me to help them. Suppose I gave up material things -- my computer, my car and so on -- and went to live on a hill in Montana where I grew my own food. Would that help anyone? No." - Chomsky