Okay but I mean "good downvotes", like lowering rewards on posts you mentioned are overrewarded but clearly no one is consuming/not bringing/holding any value on hive. If we wanna normalize that and move away from the current stigma and endless drama/debates/hate/grudges/retaliation/threats/etc we gotta do it more and make people understand that's how the platform is supposed to work while also holding bad downvoters accountable and counter bad downvotes, downvotes placing posts to 0, etc, not tell people not to even mention downvotes like it's voldemort.
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