RE: How about that FLU vaccine? Did they mysteriously cure the flu...?

[altleft]

But you are saying there is something interesting here. So I am asking if this is leading you to believe that their vaccinated status increased their chances for getting the virus. The insight I am seeking is not about the external world in this case, but your internal thought process with regard to the information you have received.

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[dwinblood]

I don't have a complete opinion. I do find it interesting the amount of new cases that are vaccinated. I'd have more of an opinion if I knew what the ratio of people that were vaccinated versus the number of unvaccinated was in Sydney. If they were near equal in ratio then I'd think the numbers should be closer than that or perhaps worse on the unvaccinated side if the narrative being pushed is true. Yet since I don't have those statistics I do not have a complete opinion.

I also don't know what testing method is used. The CDC is finally starting to back track on the RT-PCR test which they never should have been using to test for this. Far too many false positives. A lot of things that are not COVID get lumped in with COVID.

If Sydney is still using that for testing then a lot of those could be simply flu or something else. It is difficult to know for sure.

Yet having that high of new cases being vaccinated makes my questioning the push for an experimental vaccine as though it is the answer was the right way to go.

I am fine sitting where I am and watching how the experiment plays out. I hope it goes well. I truly do as the alternative is not pleasant to think of.

Yet I needed to take up my duties of spreading "misinformation" as it were...

[altleft]

I decided to do some more research, and while I suppose you will believe this shows I am biased, I now suspect that the speaker either misspoke or the microphone didn't catch his words well.

Based on all data I have found, I think it is probable that all the NSW cases were unvaccinated (except for one case where the person had one shot of a two dose series). Here's what leads me to that conclusion:

• Only 12% of Australia has been fully vaccinated, and as of July 1st, only 6% had been fully vaccinated.
• The reports from all other countries so far have indicated that most vaccinated people have been protected against severe effects, except among the immunocompromised (transplant patients, cancer patients, etc).
• If you watch the full video from which that clip is just an excerpt, you will hear the premier of NSW imploring people to get vaccinated in order to get out of the crisis faster. It is a bit difficult to imagine such a plea immediately before an announcement that it was mostly vaccinated people that were suffering from covid there, given the relatively low vaccination rate. Here's the full video:

As an aside, it is also notable that one of the two people that died from this NSW group was a woman in her 30s with no health problems.

[dwinblood]

I suppose you will believe this shows I am biased, I now suspect that the speaker either misspoke or the microphone didn't catch his words well.

Not at all. Thank you for doing the research. It might help me form an opinion.

As an aside, it is also notable that one of the two people that died from this NSW group was a woman in her 30s with no health problems.

Yes that is a concern. Yet we wouldn't know for certain if it was due to the illness or due to the vaccine. We do have quite a lot of people that fit that description showing up in the VAERS database.

Things may be easier to know for certain soon. CDC backing off of using the RT-PCR tests might help in making the data more reliable and have a lot less false positives.

Good data always helps.

As to your bias. We all have bias. I'm not going to call you a bad person because you have bias. Especially when you are willing to have civil discussion. Which you have been doing quite well.

I am watching. I am reading. Also I do appreciate you finding that longer video.