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MSNBC anchor Andrea Mitchell asked Murthy about "breakthrough cases," specifically the possibility of a fully vaccinated person being infected with COVID-19 and spreading the virus to unvaccinated individuals, such as young children or immunocompromised adults.
"So the people that we're most concerned about are the unvaccinated," Murthy responded to the question from the cable TV host. "For example, if you happen to have a lot of interaction with folks who are unvaccinated, let's say you're a parent like me who has young children at home who are not vaccinated, that's a circumstance where we're being extra cautious and wearing that mask even if you're fully vaccinated, wearing it outside, when you're in indoor public locations, is an extra step to protecting those at home."
I have read about this in several different locations. They all referencing the same MSNBC show though. I'll give you some links to full articles as well as embed the video itself.
Considering a large number of people showing up as infected are fully vaccinated it is interesting to see this type of information come out from an "official".
They of course will spin it saying people should get vaccinated that are not. They will spin it as a "See we are having to protect the unvaccinated."
The reality of the situation is starting to appear to be something quite different.
Some place almost ALL (and a few places it might even be all) patients in the ICU for COVID are fully vaccinated. A lot of the places it is just numbers greater than 50% which would indicate the people coming into the hospital the most in a lot of different places (new reports around the world every day) are the fully vaccinated. In some other cases the majority were fully vaccinated, and some were only partially vaccinated (received one of two shots).
That is not to say that unvaccinated people are not sick as well. The issue is that most of the people are vaccinated that are getting it.
Now they will call this a breakout variant such as the "Delta" and there have been others.
If you disengage your mental filters that only let you pay attention to short term news you might find a month or so ago that numerous people here on hive were writing about the spike shedding and how it was making women who were not vaccinated have their menstruations change after spending time around vaccinated people. It was not a small number of occurrences. There were quite a lot of them. That was not the only symptom that was just one of the more common ones. When we say change... some were having two periods in a month. Others were having periods after they had already gone through menopause.
Other people were reporting headaches, etc.
The narrative was that this is not possible because the spike proteins are only produced for a little while and then they shut themselves off. They would also say the spike proteins were limited specific regions of the body such as the arm injection site. All of these things have been proven to be false. Furthermore, if you use a little common sense it should have been obvious they were false at the outset.
If you engineer cells through mRNA technology or stem cells to generate spike proteins and cells replicate. How exactly are they going to magically stop?
Show me the white paper for such technology that just stops production after this process is begun.
You might be able to do it with a different shot designed to turn it off and if the second shot was different (it is not) then this might be an explanation for why they need two.
More medical studies have come out showing that it is the spike proteins themselves that COVID produces that are causing the harmful symptoms. So if they engineer your body to produce these spike proteins and shed them are you spreading harmful material to others and are you potentially harming yourself?
Then we have Nobel Laureate (that means he won the Nobel prize) French Virologist Luc Montagnier coming out warning about these vaccines. He made the grisly prediction that many people would be dead due to illnesses caused by these vaccines within the next two to three years. I've seen other people say five years. I am hoping he is wrong because a lot of people I care about have taken the Pfizer vaccine. (my mother being one of them)
Fast forward... we start hearing about "Delta" variants which is right in line with what the virologist warned about. It is also in line with the inventor of the mRNA Vaccine technology himself(1|2|3|4|5) has been stating. This heavy vaccination of everyone rather than just the at risk population (which is those with comorbidities, or elderly) is a recipe for rapid mutation and creation of variants.
First Autopsy of COVID Vaccinated Patient Finds Every Organ of Body Infested with Spike Proteins
First case of postmortem study in a patient vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2
Considering large numbers of the vaccinated are getting sick. These people are starting to seem more and more accurate while the official narrative is starting to seem more and more like the "misinformation".
Do you remember when Dr. Anthony Fauci lied about needing masks and later came out saying it was a white lie so people would not rush the store and use up the supplies that the medical profession needed? Can you be so sure they are not telling you other things they consider white lies?
I don't want to be lied to. I want the truth whether it is uncomfortable or not.
If you consider this post "misinformation" feel free to reply with YOUR information. I don't trust information from ANYONE at this point. This is especially true of those who think they have the right to dictate what information I am allowed to and not allowed to hear.
EDIT: Do you realize that prior to being vaccinated NO children died from COVID without having other comorbidities. Even with comorbidities it was extremely rare. There are children and teens dying from COVID now. They were in the not an issue target before, what changed? Those dying have been vaccinated. It has taken an illness which was no danger to them and now that they've taken these experimental concoctions they suddenly are at risk. Think about that!!
Furthermore... they love to throw the word "Science" out there when they are not even remotely following the scientific method:
In what science do you simultaneously release 4 different (in the U.S.) "experimental" vaccines into the public an declare they are safe and effective? They declared this before the experiment is even completed.
There are other vaccines that were also used in other countries the same way.
In science you DO NOT declare the results before the experiment is completed.
Likewise, in science if one vaccine performs better we would stop using the others. None of this is what is happening. It is about money, power, and control. If you follow the conspiracy theories a lot of people think it may be about population control via depopulation and/or sterilization as well. Do your own research. Make up your own mind. Don't let ANYONE tell you what you must believe. Don't let anyone tell you that what you believe is "misinformation" simply because they don't agree with or like the message.
(Image Source: thebabylonbee.com) - Satirical News Site
EDIT: I have been editing this off and on since I posted this as I find other news stories and articles that I think are relevant.
Here is a post from @richq11 which it I think is very relevant to any discussion about COVID and the vaccines:
Graphene Oxide and Covid Vaccines: The Devil is in the Details
Thanks my friend! People also need to see this video, a former Pfizer exec explaining about graphene oxide and its link to 5G and its toxcicity.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/graphene-oxide-a-toxic-substance-in-the-jabs-karen-kingston-former-consultant-to-pfizer-with-stew-peters/5751449
You have hit the nail. the problem lies in a society that still does not understand what science is and believes that the scientific method is a way of obtaining the "absolute truth of things", when in fact it is the only method we have found to prevent our infinite stupidity takes the reins when describing the world around us.
As a scientist, I can tell you that the work consists of creating models, basically mathematical, that describe "what is observed" within certain parameters and very particular conditions. Once this model has been built and accepted by the scientific community, the next step is to demonstrate where the model fails, because the only thing one hundred percent certain is that the model is incomplete and wrong. it is always possible to create a model that better describes what is observed around us.
There are serious limitations in scientific models, and we consider them scientific precisely because we accept that they are imprecise from their origin. One of the greatest limitations is precisely what we define as "what is observed", that when our capacity for observation becomes extremely faithful to reality, we are only evaluating or capturing a tiny portion of the essence of what is happening or of the object.
thus our models in the best of cases end up describing more or less in an acceptable way that one percent of what we are able to "observe".
human stupidity makes us believe that we are capable of "observing" the object one hundred percent of its nature, and also that models are capable of describing what is observed one hundred percent. That's what social media does today, magnifying its stupidity with "the facts." that is, what they are capable of observing.
Society needs to be trained with a scientific mindset, recognizing that scientific models are fallible, and that a 60-year-old model of how a pathogen is distributed is just that, a model that must be improved, and that is surely insufficient to explain what is observed with new technologies.
I do not even want to imagine how limited a vaccine model can be that does not have any data or "observables" beyond what a group of "scientists" (vendors) have been able to imagine on their own for their clinical trials. .
And we constantly question our own models in the hope of finding a model that explains even more of what we observe.
Question everything. There is no CONSENSUS in the scientific method. Usually a discovery happens with a single person.
There can be no PEER REVIEW if you are on the cutting edge of science because you'll have no peers in what you study.
We simply use the model that best explains the most observations until we find another one.
We use Newtonian Physics for example because it is easy to understand and does work for most things ON EARTH. It falls apart in space and such with things like the three body problem.
Einstein provided a model that handles the three body problem nicely. Yet there were still things about his own models that he knew were flawed.
ALso one thing I said about Experts and Scientists in other posts. If you are following the scientific method. You are a scientist. If you are not following the scientific method then you are not a scientist.
You can flip that off/on with your choices.
Same is true of experts. If a person is an expert that does not mean they may not instead let their own biases override the expertise from time to time.
Question everything. At some point you simply have to go with what is most probable for your own needs.
Great reply... thanks.
Questioning everything is the best advice I have ever received. The path to becoming an expert always involves understanding what others think and have done, to the point that one ends up being contaminated with those ideas and ways of conceiving the world. It is not easy to have that clarity of mind to remember that everything must be questioned.
I write about what you have described almost once a month or once every other month because so much of what we see called "science" these days is not.
It is a label they use to shut down discussion, challenge, etc. That is more of dogma and religion than it is science.
So a question and a point.
If the tests can't tell the difference between the flu and COVID, both corona viruses, how the hell can they tell if it's variety A or D? Answer: they can't and it's all B.S.
Iceland and Gibraltar have some of the highest vaccination rates in the world and they are both having big outbreaks. I was downvoted for pointing this out last week.
Here is a good watch incase you haven't seen it.
I will be posting about a podcast tomorrow that explains where we are headed, the prison the prisoners can't see. The futures so bright, I gotta wear shades.
I'll check it out. I have seen some of these guys before.
The tests only test for antibodies, not specific diseases. If you have an infection of any kind your body produces antibodies so the test will come out positive. Koch's Postulates and the Rivers Criteria both specify that to determine the tocicity of any pathogen it must first be isolated. This makes viruses particularly difficult as they need a host to stay alive. The SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isloated so it can't be tested for as of yet.
So then in order to find a "Delta variant" your body would have to put out a different antibody to a "Alpha variant" correct?
I don't believe that there's a delta variant, it's just the virus present in the vaccine strengthened by additional spike proteins. It isn't a mutated form of the alpha variant. Viruses don't mutate, they have to be manipulated in a lab. Ever wonder why polio never mutated after a vaccine was found, or why you only needed one dose of the vaccine?
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34145166/
"Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally."
Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/
"Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.
Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent."
I blogged about HCQ, Ivermectin, Emodin, and others back in April 2020. Polyphenols from green tea are also amazing.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32741697/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32568613/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32963564/
It seems a healthy lifestyle is the key to a healthy life. Who'd have thought....
what we really need is a "truth vaccine":
when we catch these komisars lying, we brand LIAR into their face