Close to 200k HivePower but power-down needed

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Kein Abschied - aber ich muss gewisse Aktionen durchziehen aus diversen Gründen, hoffen wir, dass die Chain die Kurve bekommt. Danke an Alle, die mich bislang unterstützt haben - ich bin nicht weg aber es wird anders

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I know that no one here is in need to justify their actions - given I been here since August 2016, saw many ups and downs no matter what the chain was called, within DApps, Games etc (Splinterelands and Rabona mainly) I still wanted to say something - as this community is part of my life since nearly 10 years - met many friends also in real life.

200k HP will not be achieved - I need to powerdown

I was totally happy to being in the top 100 HP holder list for a short time - now it looks like I need to powerdown (not all but a bit) given current life situations some might have read from posts. I need to be prepared to make some money in case the prize of Hive goes up in the future otherwise I have problems. Not in the situation that I can totally ignore prizing I am afraid.

Not planing to leave this community that I love a lot, i also had fights with others but that is normal - as long as it is within a civil discussion way. Some might be happy to see that and hope i will leave for good. But no, not yet (however life can end sooner as we expect). I will still try to drive my music-community, help certain other communities and initiatives within Hive and to atteact epople from the outside.

Always happy to support whatever we try now after the talks on Hivefest, also good to read about Freechain hitting a mjaor media outlet.

Thanks for all that voted my shit posts

Appreciated a lot - I tried many things from start in many areas mainly around Music, Beer, Photography and some business stuff like marketing and PR (also a bit working directly for the chain in drafting press release stuff, tried marketing proposals and suggestions).

Not all was perfect, not all was well written or well thought but I tried my best. "My best" does not mean it is the best for others of course. I will NOT tag anyone here, hate these spam tagging posts on my own.

Here is to hope Hive will become bigger

I hope we find our new niche - social media or content create or "blog to earn" is in my view not the real USP - other USPs like security and speed might be similar what other blockchains also claim (we have over 4000 chains it semes?). WE have certain USPs still and we have a great community. BUT we have a small community and it is hard to attract new people and maintain them.

Hope some talks and controversial discussions on #Hivefest might bringt new movements, new approaches, new ideas, new momentum, new investors. Not saying what i think about inflation, our layer system and what we do internally vs. externally - but there is rooom for improvement in every area!

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Niemand sollte sich für einen PowerDown von HivePower rechtfertigen müssen.
Wenn jemand so lange auf Hive ist wie Du, dann sollte jedem klar sein, dass es einen gewichtigen Grund geben wird.
Schade finde ich es, dass der Preis gerade sehr ungünstig ist. Ich hätte Dir einen höheren Verkaufspreis gegönnt ;)
Ich musste ebenfalls ein paar Hive verkaufen, da uns etwas Geld für die Beerdigung meines Vaters fehlte.
Da ich aber diese Hive gerne wieder zurück haben will, habe ich auf FireFish.io einen Kredit aufgenommen und BTC als Sicherheit hinterlegt.

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Wenn ich am ende diesen Monats den Kredit (plus Zinsen) zurückzahle, bekomme ich meine Sicherung, abzüglich Gebühren, wieder zurück und kann so meine Hive günstiger zurückkaufen :-) - Eventuell wäre das ja eine Option für dich?

In einem der Kommentare schreibst Du, dass du auf einer Börse liquide Token hast, welche man bei einem Preis von 0.50 schnell verkaufen kann. Und wenn der Preis fällt, wieder mehr Hive einkauft.
Ähnlich hatte ich es vor gut zwei oder drei Jahren auch getan. Und es hat auch sehr gut funktioniert (ungefähr 8k Hive verkauft und knapp 30k zurückgekauft). Aber ich glaube auch, dass das leider nicht mehr in dem Maße funktioniert wird.
Ich hatte damals zu einem BTC-Preis von um die 2000 Sats verkauft. Dann als der Preis auf unter 500 Sats gefallen war, habe ich, nach und nach, Hive zurückgekauft (alles über die v4v.app und Zwapp-Diensten).
Hive gegen BTC tauschen lohnt sich nicht mehr, da der Preis auf 107 Sats gefallen ist.
Und Hive gegen Dollar kann man auch auf der "Hive-Plattform" tauschen und selbige Strategie versuchen ( siehe https://peakd.com/@stuntman.mike/wallet ). - So muss man keiner Börse vertrauen und kann seine Token selber verwalten und vermehren.

Alles Gute Uwe

Tolle Tipps - überleg ich mir mal

WE have certain USPs still and we have a great community.

One problem though is that parts of the community, especially some comparable big stakeholders, create a hostile atmosphere for new users.

Look for example at this post. It is a good post, completely OK, but it got downvoted because there are no comments (no 'interaction' in the post). But why the aggressor just doesn't comment himself and see if interactíon will follow instead to downvote the post? I checked that the author always responds IF people are interacting with her.

how do u know that's why it got downvoted?

I can give you the reasons why I concluded that it was the reason (without being 100% sure):

  • When it got downvoted there were zero comments.
  • I know the history of the downvoter complaining about authors not interacting on the platform (well: what about giving them a chance to interact by commenting himself?).
  • I was seeking, but really couldn't find any other explanation (no plagiarism, no farming, no spam, no excessive reward ...). Writing that, I don't like the habit of downvoting without giving any explanation, which is frustrating for the victim: it can neither learn nor revise their 'mistake' as there is no given reason. It's then just perceived as (and actually is) a hostile action.

There's a lot of people using AI to fake engagement these days, when caught they pretend they were on different devices or that a friend was also commenting on their account at the same time, etc. I reckon it may be that. It's literally her second last comment regarding the issue.

if you're not 100% sure don't make it sound like that's definitely the reason when u bring something up is all I'm saying. I don't know if that's the reason either.

Why don't we know the reason for sure? And why also all the other readers who see such downvotes without commenting on them (but drawing their conclusions!) don't know the reason? Because people who pretend to protect Hive (while having their vote circles themselves!) downvote other users without any explanation, without offering any help! I can't help but see 'punishing' as the main motivation then! In my opinion this causes much more damage than small accounts like the concerned one could ever cause! It's perceived as bullying!

You are absolutely right that is better to write of a 'strong guess' instead of a 'fact', if one is not 100 % sure of the reason for a downvote, but I had no bad intention as for me the reason seemed to be obvious.

Assumed it had something to do with the use of AI, why it is not stated ("I suspect you were using AI for creating this post, please abstain from that in future!)? Also for unaffected people who notice the downvote and wonder why?

I don't know why you'd accuse someone of doing malicious downvotes to hurt the platform.

Explanations aren't always great, they lead to endless debates and time wasting as has been proven time and time again and people always have endless excuses or become hostile, etc.

I'm all for it, but pointing to one large stakeholder here and coming to your own conclusions and sharing them as facts while painting them to be malicious goes too far imo.

I don't know why you'd accuse someone of doing malicious downvotes to hurt the platform.

Because I am convinced they do? It might not be intentionally 'malicious' but in my personal, discussable opinion the effect is just exactly that.

There are quite some eyeballs reading quietly. They see the downvotes and feel threatened. So it is my honest advice to people who are heavier invested in Hive than I myself should think thoroughly about the effect of their actions (and make the effort to explain them).

I checked the last comments of @itsmemic now, so I saw that you made the effort to ask her what she is doing. I think that is the way to go, discussions to follow or not! It makes a much better impression on quiet readers and let them understand in case downvotes might follow in future.

true - in that case the one downvoting is different then another one commenting on KE, which seems the plan - i will check more later.

It looks like That post was downvoted by the Antichrist. Or at least anti Christian.

Ja, halt, die Gier ist da, und die ganze Truppe will mehr für sich behalten, darum werden Gründe entworfen, wie K(ack)E(ffizien), Kommentare auf Posts, entweder zu viele oder zu wenige. Und das riesengroße Problem ist, dass die Leute nicht mal sehen, was für ein Schaden die einrichten.

Hi,

Das ist was mich momentan mit an Hive stört. Hive wird beworben als Social Media bei dem man etwas verdienen kann, dementsprechend muss man auscashen können. Aber das wird als Böse angesehen von manchen.

Und das ist schlichtweg falsch. Statt dessen sollte zugesehen werden, dass eben der Hivekurs auch trotzt auscashen hoch bleibt.

Dafür gäbe es Möglichkeiten. Das was mit Leo gemacht und geplant ist hätte mit Hive passieren müssen. Funktionen, die dazu führen das Hive aufgekauft/vernichtet wird.

Aber statt dessen wird lieber mit dem Finger auf andere gezeigt (downvotes), du du du, das ist aber Böse von dir....

Ich werde nach erreichen meines Zieles für dieses Jahr erst mal meine HBD in die Savings packen und nicht für Powerups jeden Monat nutzen und nur die 50% gehen dann rein....

LG und alles Gute.

!invest_vote

Sagen wir es so - für mich ist es kein Social Media und ich sag seit Jahren den Social oder Content part sollten wir auf layer 2 haben, aber anderes Thema. Denke nicht alle sehen das böse, manche schon aber bevor jemand stalked und dann sagt was ich treibe gehe ich das tranasparent an - werde auch nicht alles runterpowern. Zu den Burn Sachen ja hätte was werden können - HBD immer in Savings ist mein Rat, ausser der Kurs und Entwicklung ist spannend für mehr.

Alle nicht, sondern leider die mit Power, die schon so einen hier vertrieben haben.

Eigentlich eine Schande wie wenig hier los ist.

Ich hatte die HBD immer in Hive getauscht, weil ich dachte es geht irgendwann hier voran und schön wenn mann ordentlich HP hat. Aber ja nun wirds dann ab nächster Jahr in die Savings gehen.

Ja da hast Recht - aber ich war heute in nem Discord Call wo einige drin waren und solche Themen wurden adressiert - ich hab da Hoffnung und paar Vorschläge gemacht -schau mer mal.

Ich bin weniger hier wegen social aktivitäten - ich finde weniger manchmal mehr sogar -mir geht es um die Chain.

HBD würde ich nur dann in Hive switchen wenn ich ne Tendenz erkenne - aber dann muss es ne steile sein

Started same month, Hive has many ups and downs definitely fun meeting many from previous online spaces, making new friends here.

Power down when necessary should never be frowned upon, obviously a lot of thought has gone into your decision making.

Taking one day at a time as with everything of late, stay well and see you around. Not here much of late with real life problems I too face.

Thanks for engaging @joanstewart - especially as we have a joined past from other platform before thid blockchau thing :-).

A lot happened up and down indeed - my feeling was wring as I thought we reach a bottom at 30 cents and I actually wanted to buy even more for staking but that did not work out. But not giving up - in case real life stuff can be solved I might powerup even more - who knows - but will not powerdown all, still here to help if someone needs me.

It has been interesting being part of different technology, new ideas. Not as much time available to spend as previously, still enjoyable with never powering-down, who knows perhaps one day. Stay well!

We shouldn't have to justify such actions, but we may get judged. I am happy if you stick with Hive. I get that people have to pay the bills and Hive may help with that. It's obviously not a great time to do it. My account has been worth a lot more in the past when I had far less HP. I hope not to have to power down for a while, but I will when I can benefit from it.

!BEER

I will stick here for sure - not powering down all - currently job situation tricky, family tricky, broader family even more tricky, several other things as well.

I am confident to secure assets for a good livng but wanna take care of my daughter as well for the future - not sure how long you live - health is not perfect too - HENCE - I just want to be prepard for certain things. Thx mate for all and that you acquired me for this chain.

There's some interesting discussing on a call on the Hive Discord right now. Opinions differ on what Hive should be :)

found it - listening

which Discord? What are differing opinions :-)? link me

Verständlich. Cash ist manchmal wichtiger als HIVE und du kannst wahrscheinlich bald wieder deutlich günstiger einkaufen. Ich rechne mit Kursen von 5 Cent in der nächsten größeren Korrektur.

Mal schauen ob sich Cash lohnt - hatte ja auf Binance einiges geparkt in der Hoffnung auf 50 cent, dann doch gestaked weil Trend zu schlecht war, Daamals wollte ich mehr stake generieren - nun Preis noch schlechter und Real Life fordert etwas - ist frustrierend, aber fast mehr reales Leben wie Hive Kurs

Ich bin noch neu in dieser Community, aber ich möchte dir herzlich zu diesem großartigen Ergebnis gratulieren. Ich hoffe, dass ich eines Tages auch so etwas hier erreichen kann. Viel Erfolg weiterhin und liebe Grüße!

Lieben Dank - Dich kannte ich noch gar nicht - wenn ich helfen kann let me know

Ich bin hier erst seit zwei Wochen und lerne noch alles . Vielen Dank für deine Hilfsbereitschaft!

Sauber - Posts schauen gut aus - in den 2 Wochen bei mir hab ihc nix erreicht damals :-) - coole Story als Truck Driver-

By the way, congrats! You’re already at about 1/3 of whale level. 😁

Some time ago, you left the platform and powered down, but then you came back really strong and powered up a huge amount of HP! I’m curious, what motivated you to believe in Hive this much?

As for powering down again, I think that’s perfectly fine, especially now that Hive might catch a tailwind in the coming alt season, if it ever happens. Who knows, right? For me, it’s still a good opportunity to take some profit or hedge for when the bear market returns.

1/3 indeed - I always believed in the community - when i powered down i invested most in Splinterlands but aftercertain movements there i kind of lost trust it is sustainable and sold for Hive and powered up here - if I would have done that 1 year ealier I would probably had achieved whale status but sometime you take the right decision too late.

I hope we get into action on Hive based on discussion on Hivefest - the faster the better.

If all goes down shit happens - but believe in the core community.

Maybe when real life shit settles and I have 100k Hive liquid and sell for say 15 cents, then buy back at 2 cents it could be easy to become a whale - maybe the last one in history - but who knows :-).

Hoffe du bleibst uns erhalten, und dass es auch bei Hive wieder bergauf geht. Denke wir hätten es trotz aller Schwierigkeiten verdient. Einzigartiges Projekt und zensurresistenter Content wäre wichtiger denn je.

I feel you, man. It doesn't seem like the right time to Power Down your Hive, but when you really need the money, there's no such thing as the right time. Spending your Hive makes way more sense than taking out a loan, lol.

I still hope for some real life miracles re job, health and family shit so I can stop earlier - we will see - starting today or tomorrow

Sorry to see you power down, but life takes priority! Hopefully Hive recovers a little bit before you sell it as these are close to record low prices at twelve cents :(

Will not powerdown all,original plan was opposite - parked some on Binance to be liquid when the low price of 30 cents goes up to 50 and then lower (think I was wrong in my planning lol). But you will not et rid of me here in general.

I don't want to get rid of you :) I appreciate your vote for my witness :)

Shit, did i vote for your witness :-)? I only chec from time to time and did one new vote which is key for the chain as one stopped their witness.

Fast 200k - ordentlich.

Jetzt an den Tiefpreisen zu verkaufen echt doof.

Ja - noch ist powerdown nicht gestartet und dauert ja jeweils 7 Tage - man weiss nicht wie es sich entwickelt, gibt ja Wunder Pumps manchmal die keine Sau kapiert.

Für solch einen kurzen Pump solltest dann aber bereits ready und liquide sein, also vorher schon was downpowern

logisch - aber erwarte so nen pump nicht in 7 Tagen (oder ich hab mich wieder geirrt :-)!)

I understand your decision, and I hope everything goes well for you. I agree, Hive has so much potential, and it’s important to keep finding new ways to grow the community.

No worries ….

I had to Power down and sell 100% of my Hive back in November 2021. There is always an opportunity to buy back lower. It’s the same with Bitcoin … Sell the All Time Highs and buy the Big Dips. Over and over again … since 2010 .

I know - thx dude - i am jist simply not a trader watching all movement and hate stop/loss or short/long whatever trader strategies :-)

Yeah… I mostly just buy Bitcoin and HODL forever ….

Bitcoin is for your kids, grandkids and great great grandkids


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Greetings @uwelang ,

Having read your post....I wish you well in your future.

Your move to power-down could be brilliant....with Hive having gone so low...there is every possibility...it will spring back to the upside in a big way. Let's hope so.

Wishing you well,

Bleujay

Ist auch normal, wie viel, wie lang und bis wann sollte man halten? Es ist ein Mittel, dass ein Nutzen haben soll, entweder für die Stimmen auf der Chain, oder du wechselst es für etwas anderes um.