CDC Data Shows Only 6% of ‘Covid Deaths’ Caused Only By Covid, 94% Had Pre-Existing or Underlying Conditions

in Deep Dives4 years ago (edited)

“Only 6%” is trending on Twitter, because the most recent CDC ‘Covid19’ death count update revealed that a whopping 94% of deaths attributed to coronavirus were in fact co-morbidities, meaning for a number of these deaths, ‘Covid19’ was certainly not the actual or primary cause of death.

Ron Paul on this CDC bombshell below:

As reported directly by the CDC:

For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.

But to suggest that this data might mean only 6% of the American deaths listed on the official covid death count were actually caused by ‘Covid19’, is completely ‘fake news’, and, along with a number of similar claims circulating on social media and throughout independent media, it has been thoroughly ‘fact-checked’. In fact, Twitter even removed a tweet suggesting only 6% of ‘coronavirus deaths’ were actually caused by ‘Covid19’ which had been retweeted by Donald Trump. And that apparently makes this story extremely newsworthy.

As the argument goes, since a number of these average of 2.6 other causes of death in the official numbers are respiratory related, and the coronavirus is a respiratory infection, then ‘Covid19’ is actually the cause of all these other co-morbidities; and anyone suggesting they are pre-existing diseases or the primary cause of death in any significant percentage of these deaths is a nutcase conspiracy quack fake news peddling threat to the truth telling coronavirus battling corporate media and their censorship gone wild cohorts of the social media giants.

As Forbes argues in defense of the crumbling mainstream narrative:

...the 6% did not mean that “only 6%” of the 161,392 deaths (as of August 26) recorded by the CDC were actually from Covid-19 as Mel Q suggested [in censored tweet retweeted by Trump]. No, Covid-19 has killed far more people than that, over 183,000 in the U.S. according to the Johns Hopkins University Coronavirus Resource Center as of August 30.

Right, so the answer to this trending claim based upon the CDC’s own admission is to mindlessly assert that actually every single death attributed to the coronavirus was in fact caused by it, because it is listed as such in the official covid death tally! This is absurd, given the verifiable fact that the numbers are highly inaccurate and in many cases way overinflated.
A large number of people being listed as confirmed ‘Covid19’ cases do not have the so-called virus, some are listed as positive without being tested, the positive test results being relied upon for official numbers are “scientifically meaningless,” the tests being used are “not fit for purpose,” and they admittedly give out a large number of false positives. Furthermore, the number of deaths attributed to the virus have been directly caused by entirely unrelated scenarios including motor vehicle accidents and gunshots.

In fact, the unreliability of the ‘official’ numbers is so well established that Collin County, Texas has issued a disclaimer about the official covid statistics being released for their county, which warns that **state health officials “have acknowledged that the active case count for Collin County is significantly overstated.” It advises residents that “Collin County lacks confidence in the data currently being provided to us.”

It cannot be overstated that if a number of people listed as confirmed ‘Covid19’ “cases” do not in fact have the disease, then likewise a number of people passing away who have ‘Covid19’ listed as a cause of death were among those many “confirmed cases” of people which did not if fact have the disease.

The inaccuracy of the official numbers aside, it should be noted that over 105,000 of these co-morbidities were in fact heart related diseases, not respiratory. This is especially noteworthy, because heart disease was, before this so-called pandemic, the leading cause of death “in men, women, and people of most racial and ethnic groups in the United States,” according to the CDC itself, with one person dying from heart disease every 37 seconds! So to argue that most of these heart-related causes of death showing up alongside ‘Covid19’ on death certificates were in fact caused by covid seems a little far-fetched to me, even if ‘Covid19’ can cause heart failure (with 10,000 cases of heart failure listed as the secondary cause of death) and weaken blood vessels.

Some 80,000 more of these deaths have other non-respiratory related causes of death listed alongside ‘Covid19’, some of which were likely caused by covid (such as sepsis, according to some sources - 13,000). This means that all of these 94% of covid deaths had non-respiratory related illnesses listed as a cause alongside ‘Covid19’, with some 25,000 having two non-respiratory causes along with ‘Covid19’. The number of deaths with respiratory-related illnesses listed as a cause accounts for nearly all of the 94% which had co-morbidities (close to 160,000). Or, a smaller number of people had multiple respiratory issues (possibly related to covid), and a larger percentage had multiple non-respiratory causes of death and no respiratory issues.

13,000 of these respiratory related issues were chronic lower respiratory disease, while ‘Covid19’ is an upper respiratory disease, and chronic illness means it was pre-existing, contrary to the fact-checker argument that these co-morbidities were not pre-existing illnesses. Granted, this only accounts for a small fraction of the respiratory related conditions, however an additional 68,000 of these were identified as influenza and pneumonia (with no distinction of numbers for each), meaning a good number of the respiratory-related causes were influenza. We should also remember that influenza was estimated to have killed 61,000 Americans in the 2017-2018 flu season.

So, unless ‘Covid19’ also causes another virus unique from the so-called coronavirus, this means a sizable number of even the respiratory-related causes of death were in fact not caused by ‘Covid19’. In fact, only about half of these respiratory-related illness could realistically have been potentially caused by ‘Covid19’.

Once you break the numbers down, factoring in the heart-related causes of death that could have been caused by covid, and factoring out the respiratory causes that couldn’t have been caused by covid, then you have as many as 162,000 secondary causes of death arguably caused by ‘Covid19’, which aligns almost perfectly with the total number of covid deaths listed here. So you could realistically argue that a solid one of the 2.6 average secondary causes was actually caused by ‘Covid19’. But that still doesn’t account for the additional one and a half secondary causes of death in the average person among the 94% of deaths attributed to ‘Covid19’ with co-morbidities...

What this means is, that contrary to the mainstream ‘fact-checkers’, nearly every one of the 94% of people listed as covid deaths which had co-morbidities, did in fact have a pre-existing disease, unless one wishes to argue that diabetes, obesity, Alzheimer’s, chronic lower respiratory illnesses, cancer, along with heart attacks and all other heart and cardiovascular diseases listed here were somehow actually caused by ‘Covid19’!

Of course it is also possible that a large percentage of these people had multiple pre-existing conditions and no co-morbidities caused by covid, while a smaller percentage didn’t have any pre-existing conditions but instead had multiple co-morbidities arguably caused by covid. And this is certainly a realistic possibility, and would mean more than 6% of these deaths were in fact caused by covid, but still far less than the total official ‘Covid death count’.

The professional opinion cited in the Ron Paul Liberty Report concluded that based upon the data, it was likely that as many as 50,000 of the total listed deaths were actually caused by ‘Covid19’, with co-morbidities in these cases being either caused by ‘Covid19’ or an underlying issue such as obesity that was likely not the cause but only a contributing factor. The other 160,000, he argues, were certainly not killed by the virus. And as Daniel McAdams points out, 50,000 deaths is well within the range of deaths caused during a flu season, and only a fraction of the deaths being claimed by the fear-mongers. This estimate is still about five times greater than the 9,000 deaths accounted for in the 6%, but not even close to the numbers being sold to the public to perpetuate the pandemic that never was. This is still an opinion, but coming from someone who is more of an expert on this subject than I am, so I think it is worth considering.

The question we all must ask is: Was one of these secondary causes of death in every single case the primary or underlying cause of death? Probably not every single time. Is it likely that in a high percentage of these cases, the one or one of the potentially two or more non-covid related illnesses listed as a cause, in fact the primary or underlying cause of death? Almost certainly. Particularly when you factor in that if averaged out equally, at least one of these additional causes of death was a pre-existing chronic illness in every case, and two thirds of these were heart-related disease, which is the leading cause of death in America.

And so it is that even mainstream outlets are reporting on this with headlines quite similar to the claims being made by social media users which are blasted as ‘fake news’ by the ‘fact-checkers’!

The headline from a local NBC affiliate, WEYI (NBC 25 News), read: “CDC: 94% of Covid-19 deaths had underlying medical conditions

It was far from alone, with dozens of other mainstream outlets reporting the same.

As the article notes, a top Michigan health official also made a statement to the effect that the CDC confirmed the state’s own data indicating that ‘Covid19’ only posed a serious threat of death to the older and those with underlying conditions, another term for those with pre-existing or chronic diseases.

“Here is a statement from the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, Lynn Stutfin:”

Since the start of the pandemic, older individuals and those with underlying conditions were considered the most vulnerable to this deadly virus and likely to have the most severe outcomes. This recently released CDC data reinforces that information. [...]

All the way back in April, a NY study came to much the same conclusion, that covid appears to only pose a serious danger to those already suffering from chronic disease or other underlying medical condition.

“Almost Every Hospitalized Coronavirus Patient Has Another Underlying Health Issue, According to a Study of New York Patients,” the Time headline read.

So are we to believe that in NY, nearly every serious covid patient that came in had an underlying health issue, but across America in general, the majority of co-morbidities are in fact not underlying/pre-existing conditions, but rather causes of the virus? This seems highly unlikely.

So it isn’t just the independent media reporting that these 94% of covid deaths had pre-existing conditions which were likely the underlying cause of death. It is only that anyone outside the controlled corporate media are not allowed to circulate this info or personal opinions or interpretations about the info; only the mainstream media is allowed to do that. When media ‘outsiders’ do it, it is ‘fact-checked’ as ‘fake news’. This behavior is becoming an increasingly common reoccurring theme throughout the Covid1984 censorship crackdown and information war.

Ironically, the fact-checkers seem to intentionally avoid the other factual claim: that the overwhelming majority of people whose deaths are attributed to covid, are also old folk, on top of already having at least one pre-existing (“underlying”) disease listed on the death certificate as a “contributing cause” of death as mainstream outlets put it.

The AFP fact-check team relied mainly upon the words of an ‘expert’ to ‘correct’ the mistaken notions of us dissenting free-thinkers, who argued that:

“You've got things like acute respiratory failure caused by Covid-19, or pneumonia caused by Covid-19,” he said. So while these conditions are technically comorbidities, “Covid-19 is the underlying cause of death, because it caused pneumonia, which caused the person to die.”

But of course this logic doesn’t apply to all of the other co-morbidities which are clearly not caused by ‘Covid19’, and yet the claims of this ‘expert’ are blindly touted as the final say and ultimate truth on the matter.

Forbes even featured a tweet who’s author made the ridiculously nonsensical claim that such biased “political spin” downplaying the deadly nature of covid actually “causes” disease, as a good example of how to “clarify what the CDC actually meant.” Somehow I think the CDC didn’t mean this at all, but rather exactly what they said on their website...

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Furthermore, even the author of this featured politically correct tweet admitted that “the CDC website says” that “only 6%” of these people “actually died of COVID.” Clearly there are many people, even those being promoted by mainstream fact-checkers, who interpret the CDC wording to mean exactly what those fake-news-peddling naysayers being attacked for spreading misinformation claim it means.

It is indeed difficult to ascertain just how many deaths are caused by a virus that has still to this day not been proven to exist. It is certainly possible that not a single person among the 94% which had co-morbidities listed as a cause of death were killed by ‘Covid19’. In light of the available information, this conclusion is surely far closer to the truth than the converse mainstream media claim that every death attributed to ‘Covid19’ was caused by it and it alone.

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Thanks for your impartiality to the drama! Great article...

This made me laugh..

Right, so the answer to this trending claim based upon the CDC’s own admission is to mindlessly assert that actually every single death attributed to the coronavirus was in fact caused by it, because it is listed as such in the official covid death tally!

The purpose of disinformation is to control both sides of the narrative in order to disorient the reader from the truth and thereby accept the view of the 'approved experts'. It takes hard work to sift through the info like you have here. It's a dodging game to make sure you're not rallying for one side or the other but simply taking out the pieces that make sense and then getting a logical conclusion from it using sound deductive reasoning.

This information once refined can then we acted upon.

The general public are not capable of this refining process. Does this mean that there is no hope against disinformation campaigns?

It also makes the public terribly dependent on leaders that are capable of this.. Because if we assume hope exists, we must then assume the people will be needing other people to do this sifting.

Fear has gripped the mind of the people and it won't let go. It just takes one thing said decidedly by a 'respected authority' to be used as a new canonical reference. It takes true intelligence to separate emotion from the data.

What's your perspective?

Thanks, I agree that fear is the bigger problem. And laziness and inability for people to question the ‘authorities’. Even if all of these deaths were caused by the virus that still hasn’t been proven to exist (I’m not sure why isolating it wasn’t the first thing they did at the beginning of the ‘pandemic’), the fatality rate according to CDC data is still just 0.26%! No worse than a bad flu season. No matter how you look at it (objectively), the fear is unjustified and the measures being rolled out unprecedented in light of the reality of the situation.

I think the professional estimate of 50,000 actual covid deaths referenced on the RP Liberty Report is far more realistic than the mindless media claim that every listed ‘Covid death’ must be caused by covid because the ‘experts’ say so!

Although I still question what we are really dealing with, in light of the lack of isolation of any virus particle. Could be an old virus that’s been around for years, could just be a conglomeration of a host of respiratory-related deaths including many caused by air pollution, some from influenza, some from other coronaviruses, etc. They really don’t know, they’ve just created blind faith in a narrative which is not backed up by science. I’m willing to admit I don’t know for sure what’s going on, but I am sure the media’s lying about it! And there’s a lot of evidence to back up that claim...

Well cheers for your research. It's great to have the perspective of an impartial mind on the subject. The disinformation campaign is trap.

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Never mind that the 6% figure is completely bogus.

That interpretation of the data is simply wrong, and disregards the fact that in almost all cases, COVID-19 was the underlying cause of death. Epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz Katz gave a helpful analogy in a Medium article. If someone had lung cancer, underwent surgery to have part of the lung removed, then died of infection while in the hospital, the immediate cause of death would be the infection — but the underlying cause would be the cancer.

The figure is not bogus, how one interprets the figure is the point of contention.

CDC:

For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.

For 94%, there were “additional conditions or causes,” as per CDC. It can be argued that some of these additional conditions were in fact caused by covid, and in some cases surely were. However it seems quite clear to me that a large number of those conditions were underlying conditions, pre-existing infection by the virus, and as the CDC itself says, some of those average of 2.6 additional conditions were “causes” of death.

According to the quote you posted, if someone had cancer, and then caught covid, and this was the immediate cause of death, the cancer would still be the underlying cause of death. According to the co-morbidities listed, it is quite clear that this must be the case in many of these 94% of deaths (not only with cancer, but many other chronic illnesses and heart disease).

The estimate referenced on the Ron Paul Liberty Report citing an ‘expert’ opinion, is that only around 50,000 were killed by covid, the other 100,000+ by the pre-existing/underlying causes listed throughout the CDC data...

The figure is not bogus, how one interprets the figure is the point of contention.

It’s bogus because of the deeply flawed math that resulted in a bogus 6% figure.

False claim shared by President Trump that only 6% of CDC-reported deaths are from COVID-19 is based on flawed reasoning

Again, you’re referencing a claim based upon the 6% figure, not the figure itself. Unless the CDC used “deeply flawed math” to come to the figure, it isn’t bogus. It’s straight from the CDC. The figure itself is not bogus, only how people interpret the figure can arguably be considered bogus. I again refer you to the CDC statement copy and pasted above.

I never said that only 6% of deaths were caused by Covid, only that this is more likely than the alternative mainstream narrative that 100% of listed deaths were.

I’ve already been through the faulty reasoning of the ‘fact-checkers’ and also realize the claims they are ‘fact-checking’ in many cases are also based upon faulty interpretation of the CDC data. I never made the claim you reference which the ‘fact-checkers’ deemed bogus, and plenty of mainstream outlet headlines read similar to mine: “94% of ‘covid’ Deaths had underlying conditions”. I did, however, expose how the ‘fact-checker’ logic was as equally flawed as the ‘bogus’ claims they were supposedly ‘fact-checking’...

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