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RE: GENDER WARS

in Deep Dives4 years ago

Edit: you raise the strawman argument that if we were armed we'd just start murdering people we don't like. Did that happen? Not much, because most people aren't homocidal maniacs.

I guess if we're "lucky" all the homicidal maniacs are recruited by the police and military.

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Now, just think if those massacred had been armed. This is why you want to be armed, and not disarmed.

Are you kidding me?

Many of those people had guns and they were either taken by surprise or overwhelmed by superior numbers or both.

Having guns is not being prepared, and guns vary in quality. Security depends on far more than tools. I'm also not convinced the victims in Tulsa were much armed at all.

You're also cherry picking, instead of rationally examining history.

You might consider the Athens rebellion in Tennessee, the American Revolution itself, or any of a number of examples of people successfully defending themselves with firearms. Do research relevant statistics and you will find personal arms are employed ten times as often to defend people as they are to commit crimes.

You're not arguing rationally. You're trying to support a position you've been told is what to think. You have no familiarity with personal security, so do not know what you're talking about. I recommend you take up some martial art, because that will enable you to understand the difference between being helpless and needing everyone to be as helpless as you are, and being secure, and wanting everyone to be as secure as you are.

That's the real difference between our philosphical positions in this matter.

Walter Francis White of the N.A.A.C.P. traveled to Tulsa from New York and reported that, although officials and undertakers said that the fatalities numbered ten white and 21 colored, he estimated the number of the dead to be 50 whites and between 150 and 200 Negroes; LINK

With an estimated 10,000 persons left homeless.

So it appears that at least a few of them were able to defend themselves.

I wish everyone was as well informed and as capable as yourself.

The only way to gain understanding is through experience. While for some life will throw plentiful hazards at them from which they gain experience when they survive, others have thrust upon them the opportunity to gain understanding from experience they purpose themselves.

Either way, the only way to wisdom is through foolishness, and one can learn from the foolishness of others or their own. Any wisdom I have gained is through my own foolishness and the oft repeated hazards of being a fool.

There is little today of more import than our security, and it is demonstrable that institutions we have come to rely on mean us harm, system wide, and globally. You may not have much concerned yourself with it before, and you live, so you have not needed to. But you do need to now, so you can chastise my foolishness in the future, as I will surely again merit.

I look greatly forward to your criticism going forward, and urge you to ensure you will be available to undertake it even if events like the Tulsa riots impact your personal life and threaten to end it. Be secure enough to be among the living after.

Impressive "Motte and Bailey".

Well, I'm not going to be able to find much fault in "true wisdom is hard won by overcoming adversity".