You do realize that without 4 of those 7 accounts hive wouldn't be here.
They were early adopters of the prior chain and fundamental to establishing what constituted abuse.
Anyx paid for cheetah to run, and absent that bot the pool would have quickly been dumped by other well known, but currently absent, names.
The hive is what it is, it will be what we make of it.
We could do with more organizing of the new stakeholders, imo.
If they all get funneled into channels, rather than growing on their own, they become debilitated in how to grow.
It's like using a crutch too much.
I only vouch for me, all others probably have the common limits on speech.
No yelling fire in the theatre.
No inciting riots.
Neither of which do I advocate against.
I do advocate personal responsibility.
If you yell fire in a theatre, and get lynched, don't look to me for sympathy.
Our current level of controlled society needs some more riots, imo.
When society enslaves us, anti-socialism is duty, iyam.
Acidyo = OCD - massive curation and community incubation project
Marky - technical Hive contributions, retired from anti-abuse
Pharesim - curation project
Blocktrades - his team works on Hive core code and related tech
Steemcleaners - account is retired, now Hivewatchers
Anyx - maintains several nodes, retired from anti-abuse
Everyone is working together on Hive because without collaboration, there'd be no Hive. I think I can speak for everyone when I say that we do not have the time to collude in regards to downvoting someone.
i've received large downvotes from blocktrades and from usainvote so i am positive they do not believe in free-speech and also don't believe in even explaining why they might downvote me.
i've spoken extensively with marky who is buildawhale and i know he doesn't believe downvote abuse is a serious problem and has obliterated accounts that criticize them.
i'm not suggesting that all of these accounts are 100% in agreement on everything.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT NONE OF THEM ARE THE SLIGHTEST BIT CONCERNED WITH ENFORCING UNIFORM STANDARDS FOR DOWNVOTING.
They're just using downvotes as they're meant to be used on chain. We can't have uniform standards, this isn't EOS. To claim that because they downvoted you they're not pro free speech is absurd. Everyone who is working on Hive is here because they are for free speech and freedom in general. Those who aren't stayed with Steemit.
I think it is correct what @antisocialist and others say who point to the positive work of the witnesses mentioned.
At the same time, it is a problem when criticism is not equally taken as positive feedback but as hostile or too provocative from the side of the witnesses. This is also reflected by the superficiality of the many commentators who are generous with praise but hold back with their own thoughts and suggestions either out of ignorance or disinterest or the all-pervasive superficiality.
The reactions of the small users as a whole to the activities of the large stakeholders and their interest group activities (communities) are presumably seen as predominantly confirming, and ultimately they are.
I'm past the time when I actively made suggestions about features and choices, they were all either ignored or taken as "not interesting, not feasible". Since little has changed in my suggestions and I still get no concrete response to questions to the major stakeholders, I see no interest from their side either.
You will only be heard if you show a financial commitment in addition to a publicist approach. Often only the latter is enough, without blogging at all. Of course, this is not decentralised or democratic in the true sense.
I think the chain has anarchical components as it has restricted, controlled and standardised ones. It depends where you look.
So, I think the searching feature on Hive actually needs more attention and better ergonomics and finding results. I am not able to find things here through the searching feature.
Also, the feature "how many eyes" read a publication does not exist. I wonder, why.
There is no feature for guest-commenting, without having a person registering for an own account.
I asked for this features several times: no answers.
Search does needs some help.
Eyes on posts is hard to coordinate across the many servers serving up content.
There are ways to get a 'light' account that don't require maintaining your own keys, but the purpose of blockchain is to ensure the integrity of ownership over the account, and that requires a full account and personal control of keys.
Have you ever asked a witness about the search function?
Eyes on posts is hard to coordinate across the many servers serving up content.
Do you know that for sure? When I started at Steemit in 2017, there were always eyes at the end of a post. At some point, this function was discontinued. You're sure it's because of the many servers and nothing else? Although technically I cannot understand this statement already.
There are ways to get a 'light' account that don't require maintaining your own keys, but the purpose of blockchain is to ensure the integrity of ownership over the account, and that requires a full account and personal control of keys.
Can't both be valid side by side? Surely the purpose of integrity via one's own account does not contradict allowing guest comments? I've often thought that it's rather a hindrance that only registered users can comment, it shields the content from the outside world and you don't know who outside the blockchain ever reads a Hive article. Of course, I don't know if that would be technically feasible at all. Unfortunately, no one gave answer to this question. You are the first one.
There are ways to get a 'light' account that don't require maintaining your own keys,
Thank you. I am not sure how this helps me? Oftentimes when I would even search for my own contents on the hive blog I cannot find it. I type in username, tag, headlines and contents I remember, but no results.
True. Unfortunately I have the impression that it is perceived as provocation and insulting.
What the people in position may not realize is, that in order to find attention, one must use exaggeration as a stylistic means. Which they themselves need not to do, for they have attention right away the moment they post something. While they can express themselves moderately, others have not the luxury doing so.
You do realize that without 4 of those 7 accounts hive wouldn't be here.
They were early adopters of the prior chain and fundamental to establishing what constituted abuse.
Anyx paid for cheetah to run, and absent that bot the pool would have quickly been dumped by other well known, but currently absent, names.
The hive is what it is, it will be what we make of it.
We could do with more organizing of the new stakeholders, imo.
If they all get funneled into channels, rather than growing on their own, they become debilitated in how to grow.
It's like using a crutch too much.
just let me know who you can confirm are advocates for free-speech
I only vouch for me, all others probably have the common limits on speech.
No yelling fire in the theatre.
No inciting riots.
Neither of which do I advocate against.
I do advocate personal responsibility.
If you yell fire in a theatre, and get lynched, don't look to me for sympathy.
Our current level of controlled society needs some more riots, imo.
When society enslaves us, anti-socialism is duty, iyam.
Much of this is wrong. We work together on all of Hive.
please point out specifically what you believe is provably-false.
Acidyo = OCD - massive curation and community incubation project
Marky - technical Hive contributions, retired from anti-abuse
Pharesim - curation project
Blocktrades - his team works on Hive core code and related tech
Steemcleaners - account is retired, now Hivewatchers
Anyx - maintains several nodes, retired from anti-abuse
Everyone is working together on Hive because without collaboration, there'd be no Hive. I think I can speak for everyone when I say that we do not have the time to collude in regards to downvoting someone.
i've received large downvotes from blocktrades and from usainvote so i am positive they do not believe in free-speech and also don't believe in even explaining why they might downvote me.
i've spoken extensively with marky who is buildawhale and i know he doesn't believe downvote abuse is a serious problem and has obliterated accounts that criticize them.
i'm not suggesting that all of these accounts are 100% in agreement on everything.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT NONE OF THEM ARE THE SLIGHTEST BIT CONCERNED WITH ENFORCING UNIFORM STANDARDS FOR DOWNVOTING.
2 MILLION TO BUILDAWHALE
They're just using downvotes as they're meant to be used on chain. We can't have uniform standards, this isn't EOS. To claim that because they downvoted you they're not pro free speech is absurd. Everyone who is working on Hive is here because they are for free speech and freedom in general. Those who aren't stayed with Steemit.
(IFF) you want to downvote to mitigate "abuse" (THEN) you must clearly define "abuse"
(IFF) you downvote someone (THEN) you should let them know what the fuck they did "wrong"
(IFF) you only support speech you agree with (THEN) you do not support free-speech
I think it is correct what @antisocialist and others say who point to the positive work of the witnesses mentioned.
At the same time, it is a problem when criticism is not equally taken as positive feedback but as hostile or too provocative from the side of the witnesses. This is also reflected by the superficiality of the many commentators who are generous with praise but hold back with their own thoughts and suggestions either out of ignorance or disinterest or the all-pervasive superficiality.
The reactions of the small users as a whole to the activities of the large stakeholders and their interest group activities (communities) are presumably seen as predominantly confirming, and ultimately they are.
I'm past the time when I actively made suggestions about features and choices, they were all either ignored or taken as "not interesting, not feasible". Since little has changed in my suggestions and I still get no concrete response to questions to the major stakeholders, I see no interest from their side either.
You will only be heard if you show a financial commitment in addition to a publicist approach. Often only the latter is enough, without blogging at all. Of course, this is not decentralised or democratic in the true sense.
I think the chain has anarchical components as it has restricted, controlled and standardised ones. It depends where you look.
So, I think the searching feature on Hive actually needs more attention and better ergonomics and finding results. I am not able to find things here through the searching feature.
Also, the feature "how many eyes" read a publication does not exist. I wonder, why.
There is no feature for guest-commenting, without having a person registering for an own account.
I asked for this features several times: no answers.
Search does needs some help.
Eyes on posts is hard to coordinate across the many servers serving up content.
There are ways to get a 'light' account that don't require maintaining your own keys, but the purpose of blockchain is to ensure the integrity of ownership over the account, and that requires a full account and personal control of keys.
Have you ever asked a witness about the search function?
Do you know that for sure? When I started at Steemit in 2017, there were always eyes at the end of a post. At some point, this function was discontinued. You're sure it's because of the many servers and nothing else? Although technically I cannot understand this statement already.
Can't both be valid side by side? Surely the purpose of integrity via one's own account does not contradict allowing guest comments? I've often thought that it's rather a hindrance that only registered users can comment, it shields the content from the outside world and you don't know who outside the blockchain ever reads a Hive article. Of course, I don't know if that would be technically feasible at all. Unfortunately, no one gave answer to this question. You are the first one.
How is that working?
Way around search limits is this, use keywords via external search engines like Yandex: https://yandex.com
Thank you. I am not sure how this helps me? Oftentimes when I would even search for my own contents on the hive blog I cannot find it. I type in username, tag, headlines and contents I remember, but no results.
Asking people to consider changing their witness votes seems to have garnered the attention of the most influential account on the chain.
True. Unfortunately I have the impression that it is perceived as provocation and insulting.
What the people in position may not realize is, that in order to find attention, one must use exaggeration as a stylistic means. Which they themselves need not to do, for they have attention right away the moment they post something. While they can express themselves moderately, others have not the luxury doing so.