"Italian television TG LA7 recorded in detail the remains of Point-U from Kramatorsk and showed – the serial number. That number (Sh91579) reveals that it belonged to the 13th Missile Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine..."
Have you confirmation of this?
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Yes. Serial number of Kramatorsk projectile is Sh91579.
Here are serial numbers of Tochka-U projectiles that Ukraine has fired at Donbass cities of Alchevsk, Logvinovo, Berdyansk and Melitopol:
Alchevsk - Sh91565 (2015)
Logvinovo - Sh91566 (2015)
Berdyansk - Sh915611 (2022)
Melitopol - Sh915516 (2022)"
All the serial numbers are very close. Practically same series.
https://t.me/c/1751616963/18191
I have not managed to create a Telegram account without providing my phone, so am unable to use Telegram at this time. While the serial numbers are given, I am not aware of how those numbers are ascribed to Ukraine.
They are the only one who still have Tochka-U in their arsenal, @valued-customer.
I appreciate that. However, the Russian Federation has demonstrated possession of NLaws and other NATO exclusive materiel seized on the battlefield, and the US purchased 19 Migs from Moldova, IIRC, so official arsenals aren't particularly probative. When we are faced with inexorable war propaganda that obviously will include false flags, including atrocities, I undertake some reserve.
I am not specifically denying Ukraine's responsibility for the strike. I simply sought greater surety. The fog of war should definitely inculcate greater evidentiary burden on folks claiming to know who did what with certainty. Frankly, I'm not sure the Moskva still floats, for example.
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You can be sure this is an ‘artwork’ of the Ukrainian side, @valued-customer. You can see that every civilian death is in the western corporate media immediately pinned to the Russian side, without any question. Can you then imagine then Russian special forces (which can destroy Ukr rocket systems with their own high precision weapons) secretly taking over just one Tochka-U system on the Ukrainian side, and then shooting with it civilians in Kramatorsk knowing that they will be accused for the crime? Come on man, think…
It is well known who is attacking civilians in Ukraine. Here are witnesses from Mariupol talking about the Azov deeds, interviewed by John Mark Dougan:
https://rumble.com/v116td5-mariupol-1-my-little-girl-is-buried-in-front-of-the-apartment-in-the-dirt-l.html
Russian Army started the operation to protect civilians in the first place. Over 14,000 were murdered by the Nazi legions in Donbass since 2014. It was a high time to stop the carnage.
I am aware. The Ukrainian army was massed on the border of the Donbass when Russia prevented the impending genocide of Donestskian and Luhanskian civilians. I am glad you are also aware. Many people are not, and claims are made of Russian military personnel committing crimes. Many people are not aware that the Ukraine was bombarding civilians since 2014. Those people think Russia started military action, and have no idea Russia prevented an ongoing genocide from becoming much worse.
Perhaps seeing proof the Kramatorsk Train Station was bombed by a Tochka-U that definitely came from Ukraine would convince some of them of the truth. The people that have been fooled by the enemedia are not in favor of blowing up children and civilians, mostly. They just don't know they are being lied to. That's why proof is important.
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