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RE: Riddle Me This...

in Deep Dives3 years ago

Thanks for your well thought out responses; I really appreciate them! :-)

So, I feel I need to explain something about how I look at all this... You seem to juxtapose a moral argument with a legal one. What I mean is that it seems you're alright with "equality" when it comes natural, but not when it's coded into law. About that I would say that "law" is exactly "coded morality". We, humans, come from tribal past, and in the tribe we were "equal"; studies of the tribal people that had survived until the last century showed that. In the tribe, that had a maximum of 500 people and were typically 50 - 200 people, we knew everyone and the moral behavior came naturally. That doesn't work in tribes the size of a nation, which is why we make official rules, laws.

When you think in these terms, there are no "victims" and there also is no "equality" in the sense of "sameness". Lastly you explain the motivation for what we call "virtue signalling", something I despise. But... There's nothing wrong with helping people or fighting for coded morality to make oneself feel good about oneself; I, like most people I believe, get a good feeling when I help someone; I hope you do too.

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Then I express myself more clearly and use this metaphor:

“kindly let me help you or you will drown,” said the monkey putting the fish safely up a tree.

That is the type of "helping" I was talking about.
Companies or Charity-Organizations, which want to "do good" and to "feel good" by abusing what they see as "to be fixed" in the world (poor Africans and other so called third world countries)

To give you the whole quote:

“The reason you want to be better is the reason why you aren’t, shall I put it like that? We aren’t better because we want to be. Because the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Because all the do-gooders in the world whether they’re doing good for others or doing it for themselves are troublemakers: on the basis of “kindly let me help you or you will drown,” said the monkey putting the fish safely up a tree. Sometimes doing good to others and even doing good to oneself is amazingly destructive because it’s full of conceit. How do you know what’s good for other people? How do you know what’s good for you? If you say you want to improve then you ought to know what’s good for you, but obviously you don’t because if you did then you would be improved. So, we don’t know. We do not really know how to interfere with the way the world is.” —Alan Watts

Good intentions do not guarantee good outcomes. Is that a good enough reason to abandon good intentions? I think not. Does that mean there's nothing "to be fixed"? Again: I think not. There are institutions, like corporations and so called Charity Organizations whose intentions weren't good to begin with; you can blame capitalism for that. Not just human greed, but the human greed on steroids that is the result of a system that values profits and "the bottom-line" above anything else. Lastly; "democracy" is also artificial...