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RE: ARE ACTIVISTS WHO INCONVENIENCE THE GENERAL PUBLIC JUSTIFIED? ecoTrain QOTW

in ecoTrain2 years ago

Interesting post! I am sure you recall from your protest days that without reasonable access to media, government, or corporation messaging, it can be so hard to raise awareness of problems - even those that affect all of us. There seems to be a familiar cycle for science-driven concerns in particular... Science begins to consistently show harmful effects of DDT, tobacco smoke, lead, benzyne, greenhouse gasses, asbestos, etc. etc. etc. and all the public is shown are the paid-for opinions of the polluters. How to get the message to rise above the profit-driven propaganda is such a problem. I guess that can justify inconveniencing the public. And, from a moral perspective, if the concern is of a widespread damage, with strong consensus and accessible data among experts, I suppose one could say it is philosophically justifiable to inconvenience the public in the interests of its greater health.

For smaller problems, it is a harder moral equation, I think. Hard to draw attention to the plight of a small number of powerless, voiceless people.

I do have to say that I am astonished to read that you write we have not reached real consensus on climate crisis - I think I interpret it though as you saying that although there is possibly historically-high consensus on climate crisis that the public disregards this to some degree?

Anyway, I think that if each of us who care about causes went through a careful moral weighing of how it may or may not be justifiable to disrupt others' lives, and we get MUCH BETTER at determining what really is evidence of our concerns (e.g., not rumors or unfounded conspiracies), then I think we would have a more effective, cooperative civil society.

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 2 years ago  

I do have to say that I am astonished to read that you write we have not reached real consensus on climate crisis - I think I interpret it though as you saying that although there is possibly historically-high consensus on climate crisis that the public disregards this to some degree?

Its a good point.. what i really mean is that looking at the response and how little money and development is happening in renewables, it seems that the powers that be (rather than the public) do not yet deem climate change to be a real issue. They carry on just as they always have done, whilst making token gestures to appease the public.. we still have literally Trillions of dollars subsidising oil every year globally, and we are still building and using coal for power like we always did. There is very little money going in to renewables in real terms, and pathetic support for the use of solar panels or similar alternative energy..

Whatever people may say, i judge this based on actions rather than words.. and looking at the actions of almost all governments and industry, i think it's fair to say that we do not yet deem climate change to be a real issue.

I dont really think it matters much what the public think, because they are not listened to, and have virtually no effect on what really happens and where the big money goes..

I think I am with you 100% on this. Although the public seems suicidal at this point, too. Best selling vehicles in the USA are all gigantic, inefficient ICE trucks and SUVs. Very poor prognosis for us at this rate :(