I've seen that someone got scammed 358K Hive. We should try to get this uid scam thing more under control.
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I've seen that someone got scammed 358K Hive. We should try to get this uid scam thing more under control.
What?! But how is that possible? I've seen cases of well-known people on Hive who unfortunately fell for similar scams (those mentions with strange links offering free money), but nothing of such a high magnitude.
These are people that do not know Hive, scammers tell them there is a hive liquidity pool or something. And they get their binance id, and create a hive account with that id like @uid2372372 ans ask them to send money there. And they send some money back to gain trust.
My God... this is why we need more people to guide newcomers who are starting out on Hive. Topics such as digital security Topics such as digital security and not trusting certain suspicious accounts should be essential when starting out. But hey, most of us learn the hard way.
They are not starting on Hive, they don't know anything about Hive. They sent the money from exchanges to an account a scammer controls on Hive.
Aaaaah! I get it now. 🥴
Well. Even on exchange platforms, you have to know who you're doing business with. You can't give your money to just any random person, that should be a basic rule.
Sad thing.
This only proves we need to get better on this.
That's a tricky world.
everyone is well aware, but they target users off the chain and in private, so it is incredibly difficult to intervene in any way that doesn't foundationally break our ethos and tech backbone.
That being said, we're monitoring the creation of these accounts, have them being fed into a publicly available bad actors list hosted on our public repositories and I'm in direct contact with all of our CEX partners trying to convince them to disallow transfers on and off platform by any users on this list. CEXes are unfortunately incentivized to let people trade more than they are to block users based on what they believe is just the word of a centralized entity (our community, who is the list provider), so it's delicate negotiations. A few have already adopted it and we are working to try to get it spread to any who may list our assets but it does hinge largely on their internal processes, reviews, and policies.
Unfortunately, it's a lot like the people who see a spoofed telephone number and hear someone on the other end who knows their name and some of their personal details scraped from a breach or social media and end up convinced it's their bank. Scammers are going out and meeting the users where they are and getting between them and the blockchain itself, which makes it pretty hard to tackle. We're trying to build better ways to unravel their plans though!
If blocking altogether isn't appealing to the exchanges, couldn't they create a warning if they account the user is sending to starts with uid? Seems reasonable to me.
Hopefully, these plans will bear fruit. It is sad seeing how much these scammers are making.
it goes far beyond the UID accounts to a pretty insane number of phishing and impersonation avenues, but yeah, that would be very nice. It again comes down to development overhead (CEXes do not want to build features for you or monitor additional info or lists unless it has legal ramifications for them and even then only if your protocol is very big and makes them lots of money to offset cost) and how much due diligence/review they have to do according to their own policy for enacting a list. We are making progress and there are a few who can confirm it is in place now, so I'll take all the good juju I can get and hope we can get more and more of these enactments in place off platform 🤞
How are they scamming? Are they sending malicious link or soemthing?
They scam people that are not on Hive, by telling them there is liquidity pool and they can earn money. People send money, people receive more money back the first few times and they take the money.
Hmm, feel like something like this happend to my cousin a while back. And he is a tech guy.
This is just a part of the scams' work.
Yeah, sounds terrible. People losing their hard earned money.
I don't understand how (or why) we need to do anything about this.
Basically to create a safer environment for everyone, I think.
Yeah.
This is something we need to get a better policy.
Oh my gushhhh 😲 🫨
We really need to be careful 🧐