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RE: Weekly update on HF24

in HiveDevs4 years ago (edited)

Then looks are deceiving. I don't know personally know haejin or ranchorelaxo, and as far as I can remember, I've never had even an on-chain conversation with either one of them.

He's not voting based on content. As I already mentioned, it's not strictly random, as hes voting for whatever is on hot or trending.

But that voting pattern is also bad, IMO, because it just focuses out-sized rewards to a few people instead of distributing the rewards more reasonably among posters. If you makes you feel better, you can view it as reward disagreement, since I think getting votes without anyone paying attention to the content tends to lead more reward than should be received.

There's also another issue with the ranchorelaxo stake, since it appears it's being voted against the wishes of the actual owner, by haejin who seems to have the posting key, but not the active key. This creates a perverse incentive in terms of voting, since his primary interest becomes maximizing rewards of the haejin account, while ignoring the potential losses in stake value of the ranchorelaxo account from his actions.

Finally, I reject your claim that others are "following" my downvote. I think you'll find that others are countering haejin and ranchorelaxo's votes, but generally speaking they were doing so before I started. I mainly started because others asked for my help in doing so.

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thanks for responding. I understand what you say.. and i would like to challenge you, in the best possible way, about it.. please do take just one more minute to consider this.. this for me is really not about rewards at this point.. its about how we govern Hive.. WHO governs hive, and whether or not we should even be attempting to micro manage it. I hope you can take this as constructive criticism...

Back in the day of voting bots, there were way more scammy activities happening, and it was clear that a HUGE amount of posts were getting unfairly rewarded.. and some even made profits from voting bots on top of the unfair rewards.. the trending page was really not very exciting.. It took time but finally the situation was resolved with a hard fork.. by giving free downvotes each day.. Suddenly, overnight things changed.. the system dictated how we behaved, and the addition of a simple new downvote directive took care of the whole problem very swiftly.

What makes a good post? What makes a post worthy of a good vote?.. That is of course entirely subjective,. It is obvious when a post is plagiarised, or worse.. and i do agree those posts are worthy of a a downvote.. but even then not always depending how its done and whether any extra value is added.

What is happening now is VERY different and sets a dangerous president. It is this that I am focussing on. I dont believe that anyone, but especially someone in your position, should be getting involved in micro managing votes, deciding what has value, or using your very large stake to attempt to steer the reward pool in a certain direction. It dishonours one of the core principals of anarcho capitalism and a true decentralised model.. in my opinion we are on the road to failure because this path of micromanaging leads only ONE way.. which is only MORE censorship and attempts to steer a ship that does not want to be steered.

We must let her (hive) evolve naturally. To stifle it means it won't grow, we will lose diversity, and we have lost our freedom to express and to choose with our own core values what we like.

I know you are passionate about Hive, and have put ENORMOUS amounts of energy in to creating it and keep it going.. and sometimes we may get a bit too attached,, something like an overprotective parent.. but i say.. LET HER BE FREE.. PLEASE!~ Let's not go down this path.. things will resolve naturally and you dont even have to do anything. Let the community handle things.. EVEN when things seem DIRE..

I hope you understand this comes from a place of love and care.. but with a slightly different perspective..

have a great Sunday!